From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jason Spiro" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial (was: minor sugg...splash screen) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:49:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ejpc3ilr.fsf@localhost.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1170216541 28010 80.91.229.12 (31 Jan 2007 04:09:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 04:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Eli Zaretskii" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 31 05:08:45 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HC6m3-0005cM-0W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 05:08:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HC6m2-0000jc-EU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:08:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HBzvE-0008CO-QK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:49:44 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HBzvC-0008CB-DK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:49:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HBzvC-0008C8-8V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:49:42 -0500 Original-Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.247]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HBzvB-0001C1-TL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:49:42 -0500 Original-Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b8so764504ana for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:49:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Y5JbbUhbRfRRlYDAzQaX4AKVFxuAfRo3Dn1pL4YLbq4urPMYLpf6D90aJ2+yexEwcuvC9P4dp6fIVggQO8Y9vhD31y1HN0jktyqEdmsMXXeaoep+u1eH1gnQpDJaD94VmeIOOheftgEchtxIDIwyXJk7HbuRFoWY1PkguWuhdXM= Original-Received: by 10.114.182.1 with SMTP id e1mr83506waf.1170190180489; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:49:40 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.114.67.5 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:49:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 037aab9c99c2bedf X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:07:23 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:65673 Archived-At: 2007/1/30, Eli Zaretskii : > > From: Jason Spiro > > Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 05:38:08 -0500 > > > > "Drew Adams" wrote: > > > FWIW, here are some minor suggestions for the splash screen. > > [snip] > > > > I agree wholeheartedly with your suggestions. I have one more: We > > should provide a clickable link to a graphical tutorial on the Emacs > > splash screen. > > > > http://stuff.mit.edu/iap/emacs/emacs-slides-1.pdf seems to be a good > > one. It quickly covers the basics such as how to move the cursor. > > Then it gets to the useful stuff, such as the kill ring, isearch, etc. > > > > I took a show of hands at my school's LUG meeting today, and only 10% > > of the students used Emacs. Nowadays, too many people use non-Free > > IDEs. Is there any better way to show people the power of Emacs than > > a graphical tutorial? > > > > If I submit a patch to implement this link, will it be accepted? > > Thanks, but please don't, not now: we are in the middle of a pretest, > striving to put out Emacs 22.1 ASAP. Any changes that are not > bugfixes distract us from the pretest and run the risk of adding new > bugs, thus delaying the release. > > Please come back and revisit this issue after Emacs 22.1 is released. Could this, too, be added to the TODO file? :-) -- Jason Spiro: computer consulting with a smile. I also provide web and software development services for businesses worldwide. Call or email for a FREE 5-minute consultation. Satisfaction guaranteed. +1 (416) 781-5938 / Email: info@jspiro.com / MSN: jasonspiro@hotmail.com