From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>,
17272@debbugs.gnu.org, 19064@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#19064: bug#17272: bug#19064: 25.0.50; `message' overwrites `y-or-n-p' prompt, so user misses it
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 13:19:02 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c222d6a7-54fb-4bfe-a66c-afc4d97668bb@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sgmy3x22.fsf@gnus.org>
> > - (message "%s" msg))
> > + (if (minibufferp)
> > + (minibuffer-message "%s" msg)
> > + (message "%s" msg)))
>
> Wouldn't it make more sense to just have `message' behave like
> `minibuffer-message' if '(minibufferp)'? Otherwise all async code will
> have to have this code snippet.
FWIW, I disagree very much with the patch - and
with Lars's suggestion.
Both `message' and `minibuffer-message' are useful
when the minibuffer is active. They behave very
differently, and each behavior is useful.
`message' interrupts your minibuffer dialog
temporarily (and how & how much can be controlled).
And it logs to `*Messages*' (and that can be
controlled). Use it when it's appropriate to do
those things (particularly the interruption).
`minibuffer-message' uses the same real estate,
at the same time, as your minibuffer input.
It is definitely NOT the case that it is always
most useful for a message while the minibuffer
is active to be delivered by just appending it
to your input, and not interrupting the dialog.
___
The problem described by the bug report needs to
be solved some other way. It has nothing to do,
necessarily, with `minibuffer-message' versus
`message'.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-11-08 21:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-15 18:38 bug#19064: 25.0.50; `message' overwrites `y-or-n-p' prompt, so user misses it Drew Adams
2015-12-26 16:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-26 17:19 ` Drew Adams
2015-12-26 17:45 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-12-26 17:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-07 17:41 ` bug#17272: " Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-08 9:15 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-08 15:44 ` bug#17272: " Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-05 23:10 ` bug#19064: " Juri Linkov
2019-11-08 20:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-08 21:19 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2019-11-09 23:01 ` bug#19064: " Juri Linkov
2019-11-12 2:13 ` bug#17272: " Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-12 15:34 ` Drew Adams
2019-11-12 22:20 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-12 23:23 ` bug#17272: " Drew Adams
2019-11-13 21:29 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-11-13 21:53 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-13 23:24 ` bug#17272: " Drew Adams
2019-11-14 15:46 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-11-14 16:28 ` bug#17272: " Drew Adams
2019-11-14 17:06 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-11-14 17:17 ` Drew Adams
2019-11-14 20:29 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-11-16 20:53 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-16 22:37 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-11-17 1:42 ` bug#19064: bug#17272: " Drew Adams
2019-11-17 21:58 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-17 23:54 ` bug#19064: " Drew Adams
2019-11-17 5:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 5:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 21:59 ` bug#17272: " Juri Linkov
2019-11-18 21:10 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-19 8:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-19 11:11 ` bug#19064: " João Távora
2019-11-19 22:39 ` bug#17272: " Juri Linkov
2019-11-19 23:38 ` João Távora
2019-11-20 22:10 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-20 23:44 ` João Távora
2019-11-21 21:39 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-22 7:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-23 19:02 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-23 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-26 23:18 ` bug#19064: " Juri Linkov
2019-11-27 0:46 ` Drew Adams
2019-11-21 8:22 ` martin rudalics
2019-11-21 21:44 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-22 8:08 ` martin rudalics
2019-11-23 18:56 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-23 19:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-19 22:28 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-20 10:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-20 22:18 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-21 21:54 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-21 23:07 ` bug#19064: " Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-23 21:54 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-26 23:44 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-27 11:55 ` bug#19064: " Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-28 22:45 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-06 22:18 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-09 22:57 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-10 9:46 ` martin rudalics
2019-11-10 20:45 ` bug#38164: quit-restore-window doesn't restore point in man Juri Linkov
2019-11-11 9:33 ` martin rudalics
2019-11-12 20:50 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-13 8:04 ` martin rudalics
2019-11-13 21:29 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-14 9:20 ` martin rudalics
2019-11-14 23:13 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-15 8:13 ` martin rudalics
2019-11-18 21:21 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-19 3:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-19 7:56 ` martin rudalics
2019-11-19 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-19 16:53 ` martin rudalics
2019-11-19 17:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-19 18:15 ` martin rudalics
2019-11-19 23:03 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-20 7:59 ` martin rudalics
2019-11-20 22:35 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-20 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 13:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-04-04 18:13 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-04-04 18:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-04 19:19 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-04-04 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-04 19:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-04-04 19:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-26 17:53 ` bug#19064: 25.0.50; `message' overwrites `y-or-n-p' prompt, so user misses it Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-26 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
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