From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Garreau\, Alexandre" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 04:33:48 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1402972488 6709 80.91.229.3 (17 Jun 2014 02:34:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 02:34:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Rusi Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 17 04:34:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WwjEP-0006fb-TC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 04:34:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47043 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WwjEP-0002wp-He for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:34:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38568) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WwjDt-0002TH-8C for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:34:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WwjDn-0000GL-2x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:34:09 -0400 Original-Received: from bar75-1-78-192-124-148.fbxo.proxad.net ([78.192.124.148]:48782 helo=galex-713.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WwjDm-0000G4-Ns for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:34:03 -0400 Original-Received: from PC-713 (71.45.142.88.rev.sfr.net [88.142.45.71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: galex-713) by galex-713.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4AFB515F7ED; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 04:34:01 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=galex-713.eu; s=dkim; t=1402972441; bh=VYmv9CuY2iImwf5cdHluoVcrLTJqSv6Usw4lko+B924=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=K0UfIEBvQryD6AA/z+nfWX6TD8uwKa9kVedgvL/PFOVKiqVId2s2cBMtD94P/o6tt NFEhXblRqvMIt1uXZ1Lr2z9SCECeRPC6bMFRvBNDX2hHujERFi64TjlNGr+eXcFNZ/ sygcI1NsUJpjNsf85WAvjkobh4WMcJJkBUM7S7Og= In-Reply-To: (Rusi's message of "Mon, 16 Jun 2014 19:12:09 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus (5.13), GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAMAAABg3Am1AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAADBQ TFRFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQEBAQEBAgICBAQEFRUV////////////////////////2mBkLQAA ABB0Uk5TAAAAAAAAAAABCU2g0Pr+/CTJwSkAAAABYktHRACIBR1IAAABkUlEQVRIx82W0XLEIAhF nbx5QfP/f1sVUVSStvvSOrObrOEI1yBsuH45wl8AAHEdRMD3QDHOZjDhFQClvI20IRaIYl5Wvdu1 e0uIPgDWBVGuhYW6ZHhAsxf/5Y6ofCTKlQjWPsl8cZBRvlhCQbJEMPY6S9U2coupE7R7iMa+rkgN o/FmDg0Y8fSI1qljl5CGf3Gm0p8A414dtBuOPlAcTO+koVi3G7A4SOMHeTGFHi2OiB5khx7sZSXH eU8PwCKZjJxDdpB5K9kNbwGMhJY386kTkwB39NcsP294QDKS7caYPfYB5NeRDg30DvAO1AgSL8PM TGBsK+UjZHPwJqAvrkre970WEDgAq2TeU2FkIE1ARZDzYkcG6is16d0kH0DspwJml/oBQnbPpGRg 08fLEfUkz2xBXoCWAp5kzcBicFtAcwIeUGVzW9AAkaROu4DUdCxAL8V+l5JyvAG2GO8e5MkO2HJ/ NCXGdQLSCbYOZRrKCVwR2rJquUbtpmm2rNhmH5tiSj9oih+03Q8a+z/4c/IFGNsy9Qwqrr0AAAAA SUVORK5CYII= X-Home-Page: https://www.galex-713.eu X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: E109 9988 4197 D7CB B0BC 5C23 8DEB 24BA 867D 3F7F X-GPG: 0x8DEB24BA867D3F7F X-Accept-Language: fr, it, en X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 78.192.124.148 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:98296 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2014-06-17 at 04:12, Rusi wrote: > On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:12:11 AM UTC+5:30, Garreau, Alexandre wrote: >> On 2014-06-14 at 16:51, Yuri Khan wrote: >>> Yes, LaTeX does a lot to produce a beautifully typeset printout from >>> an ASCII source. This is not enough; I want that same beautiful >>> typesetting on screen, in browser, in any page width I happen to have, >>> in my favorite typeface and font size, without having to recompile the >>> document. And at the same time, it does too much. It has to maintain, >>> and document authors have to utilize, a multitude of workarounds that >>> are caused by TeX not using Unicode internally. > >> Having something technically and typographically good like LaTeX, >> semantic and interpreted like HTML and language-neutral like >> markdown/any-binary-interpreted-format would be great. > > Yes its important that we start moving to XeteX (luatex) where I can > directly write =CE=B1 etc than \alpha. I know XeteX, but I wasn=E2=80=99t thinking to it=E2=80=A6 And yet LaTeX is= not fully language-neutral because of command names (\emph, \textbf, \title, \section, etc.) and isn=E2=80=99t interpreted, and not reaaaaally semantic (since it=E2=80=99s only made to be compiled into a graphical thing). > =C2=B9 Dare I say =E2=80=9Cuniversal=E2=80=9D? As math is the only langua= ge approaching > universality known to humanity. Well, nothing is really universal (everything need a shared knowledge, thus, a culture). Even math, when it isn=E2=80=99t based on latin or greek language, stay based on occidental/arabic/indo-European culture and symbols. But we can artifically make universal things, just as we more or less did with lojban, or TCP/IP, etc. So what we can do is just invent new pieces of culture based on the most universal things we can, and avoiding linguistic/geographic/gender/class cultural biases. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJTn6kMXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRFMTA5OTk4ODQxOTdEN0NCQjBCQzVDMjM4 REVCMjRCQTg2N0QzRjdGAAoJEI3rJLqGfT9/9qgP/jYktZpsDLVpa26H28rIZWCo LcmQ2NGO1EbGmXGRUvkJvTYckTAQwS7UUDvS3yWJ5HFRXTsHsjCPSgGKa3SjT17H tInQBq8Muw/QGc9gKTtPNfkHqd5zTIO1GPSv5GjpFLwFR35m3PFn1/DXExOa8fla TKQPMY9y3Z/C1hoHZq6s7ETBs2Qcq1eONhFDjUorJkfprE3TdP0gvmlEpP4+iLqP YF6fTOmGmd6SqxUW8Ykm6UUfdQesaX+bVX1/w1di6WXlJQ7oK158uUkvYnm/MgT+ Inr/NtVoEgOgAtg0VIeomA1ylSHTA1b5DTUIhknVBr+wzJB67kDC5S1YfW5Km9aE XVz3lfeqMSCupGLrJjp+Jct9MVKeArG5NDQLnsUEx3qExsX9osLoQDEpYAGzMo34 6TQ04kTbcZOd5HwIG+F0YuistJXm0XXjqhdI0OJh4ibnaUs4Mhul9drc5dn2u/PW eNPbMMpi1RkN3nBy6CXViJsPkZH5G7SU93tgNvpcSbXw8P9BVCEQt2NtvLEMdmuh EJO36KjFQooUySJ9dgGqBHhD/pPgPy84rAeuYUZhFI0yRsQ6AjtD9ZPoorZJGSt0 m3yYpnQHkv1vGDHyLET1vUH1WwJVmHCDFut8D66KKBpGrk/ZkUT7XD+4gfWREUom q2UyXyan4qXJBOo8ybv6 =PiYP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--