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From: "Garreau\, Alexandre" <galex-713@galex-713.eu>
To: Rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 04:33:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c20xvtj23zjo.hre.xxuns.g6.gal@galex-713.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dc5cbbfa-1ac1-4e60-ba08-3355c37695ca@googlegroups.com> (Rusi's message of "Mon, 16 Jun 2014 19:12:09 -0700 (PDT)")

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On 2014-06-17 at 04:12, Rusi wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:12:11 AM UTC+5:30, Garreau, Alexandre wrote:
>> On 2014-06-14 at 16:51, Yuri Khan wrote:
>>> Yes, LaTeX does a lot to produce a beautifully typeset printout from
>>> an ASCII source. This is not enough; I want that same beautiful
>>> typesetting on screen, in browser, in any page width I happen to have,
>>> in my favorite typeface and font size, without having to recompile the
>>> document. And at the same time, it does too much. It has to maintain,
>>> and document authors have to utilize, a multitude of workarounds that
>>> are caused by TeX not using Unicode internally.
>
>> Having something technically and typographically good like LaTeX,
>> semantic and interpreted like HTML and language-neutral like
>> markdown/any-binary-interpreted-format would be great.
>
> Yes its important that we start moving to XeteX (luatex) where I can
> directly write α etc than \alpha.

I know XeteX, but I wasn’t thinking to it… And yet LaTeX is not fully
language-neutral because of command names (\emph, \textbf, \title,
\section, etc.) and isn’t interpreted, and not reaaaaally semantic
(since it’s only made to be compiled into a graphical thing).

> ¹ Dare I say “universal”? As math is the only language approaching
> universality known to humanity.

Well, nothing is really universal (everything need a shared knowledge,
thus, a culture). Even math, when it isn’t based on latin or greek
language, stay based on occidental/arabic/indo-European culture and
symbols.

But we can artifically make universal things, just as we more or less did
with lojban, or TCP/IP, etc.

So what we can do is just invent new pieces of culture based on the most
universal things we can, and avoiding linguistic/geographic/gender/class
cultural biases.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-17  2:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.3187.1402155569.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-11  0:04 ` Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes Emanuel Berg
2014-06-11  5:23   ` Nikolai Weibull
     [not found]   ` <mailman.3375.1402464243.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-11 14:24     ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-11 15:03       ` Nikolai Weibull
     [not found]       ` <mailman.3418.1402499010.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-11 15:20         ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-11 16:57           ` Teemu Likonen
     [not found]           ` <mailman.3437.1402505846.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-11 21:32             ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-12  5:43           ` Yuri Khan
2014-06-12 12:51             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-12 13:36               ` Nikolai Weibull
2014-06-12 14:48                 ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]               ` <mailman.3496.1402580195.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-14  1:49                 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-14  5:45                   ` Yuri Khan
2014-06-17  1:09                     ` Keyboard layout purpose (was: Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes) Garreau, Alexandre
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.3627.1402724759.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-14 11:14                     ` Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes Emanuel Berg
2014-06-14 14:51                       ` Yuri Khan
2014-06-14 15:26                         ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-17  1:42                         ` Garreau, Alexandre
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.3651.1402757512.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-14 16:13                         ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-16 15:35                           ` Joost Kremers
2014-06-17  2:21                           ` Garreau, Alexandre
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.3799.1402971688.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-17  2:41                             ` Rusi
2014-06-17  3:05                               ` Rusi
2014-06-17  1:46                       ` Garreau, Alexandre
2014-06-15  2:48                     ` Sergio Pokrovskij
2014-06-17  1:30                       ` Garreau, Alexandre
2014-06-12 16:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <mailman.3473.1402551809.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-14  1:35             ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-14  2:38             ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-14  5:19               ` Facts for fans: encodings history (was: Re: Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes) Emanuel Berg
2014-06-14  7:37                 ` Yuri Khan
2014-06-14  8:28                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-14 10:46                     ` Yuri Khan
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.3631.1402731427.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-14 11:21                   ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-14  7:11               ` Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes Yuri Khan
     [not found]               ` <mailman.3630.1402729917.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-14 11:20                 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-17  2:12 ` Rusi
2014-06-17  2:33   ` Garreau, Alexandre [this message]
2014-06-07 15:39 Nikolai Weibull
2014-06-07 17:43 ` Robert Thorpe
2014-06-07 17:59   ` Yuri Khan
2014-06-07 18:18   ` Nikolai Weibull
2014-06-07 17:53 ` Sharon Kimble
2014-06-07 18:17   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-07 18:28 ` Nikolai Weibull
2014-06-07 18:40   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-07 19:59     ` Nikolai Weibull

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