From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_R=c3=b6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C and Emacs Lisp code parts Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:01:55 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83y45lu2up.fsf@gnu.org> <54f5d80c-f20b-31aa-b438-401984fcb5b8@online.de> <874m89crw3.fsf@red-bean.com> <58c6fa18-d636-1498-8d37-b435c4ee8ec9@online.de> <83r3bdth7f.fsf@gnu.org> <06dfdf82-c469-8abe-15ab-22a96e64070b@online.de> <20160701175515.GA2618@acm.fritz.box> <20160701185704.GB2618@acm.fritz.box> <83h9c8tus8.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467442662 6836 80.91.229.3 (2 Jul 2016 06:57:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 06:57:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 02 08:57:33 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bJErs-0004zv-RR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 08:57:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37186 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJErr-0002Vo-Rd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 02:57:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43370) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJErl-0002Vj-SY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 02:57:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJErj-0004JO-Ay for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 02:57:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([217.72.192.75]:51662) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJErc-0004Iw-4v; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 02:57:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.35] ([95.119.62.28]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LvSJX-1bRFRD2SV1-010dS6; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 08:57:12 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.1.0 In-Reply-To: <83h9c8tus8.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:TAo11mktsDdorvzh1JjuOC79hqrzxMLtPZwjE+C60sF+G/7rfMp xbH4nJZi3tXFG48Gy3k4uO5xqOfP6SHjw3f5HJeUi2RQJWJ+rXXmn3bhqxAhMFm31iivO51 nPDXV+d95NOyXnDzJ8wBi4JE4zKF6tHeqgeLvtOVmDZrz8k+dMc4CaAqnhf29hl3UCtQKZL ZM/BzTKTswplnTn+DQGzw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:So+wcoUB4dM=:eBpe87/QO0OAHBGoIjXjfP 1Fb9+4+n8JHYR5TjDtxeTau3cMetJhgG00FzM0jGGTa3NMMkmDW/ypv1EydvS5N4ciRrvbIcC ep0eu9NitCeQFRRjMFu+nnG+5GuLs5bfen3+g97xd8kiMqb4TYZ7urFXUmcv3QwiSStaVC9q+ ITyAMLeOHJy11xYZr0/fAIAe2Z5EBebzVWAC8hOrvkgKh6KMkNGkxjoATq4TmJ3v3tQ6RQgl2 8IIKl+CYYCYl4eUFosmR9j8GY4iFDKwP+zzsuRwznOxWcPYX/RJUEabB8D1N6ke3CpYjZM54n SW+nmE8L0UFJNUMnLz8Qqeuz4pqEIEf3oNNcSD1v6aaVJg+tVMsfpLbgqfCqeCgFyt8jmXC2z lyjQystgkJAWu7qXPQWRd4uGP+QH+RyISl/rHjs6SjQd3qzh0/I20LegasaQy0VovI3POsl/6 ElYOSYHN0Puw4SMd8EbY2Bz3hydg26a1Q0GblWQ6HXuS/GqhKat6lwcGexuoLNcjmy1sFDrXl Cr/x52AMxK41R+0j+wF0GTTiWOEO1bGEkMt9KwZIdXiRCbzhBVMA9c9NmeXX4ivTanuTITJpF +HExuas+o5BbUqONFGcVe1KafuipEjaaC/TM36parw+DfqDtw8b9uMvU8goc9X3IvFgvPg6Ou MTayyRV25rOhSv3QmX3H2K6pHMqihw8km+gikO/lccADFfeqslapff48WGig1Pp1f5cmbC7d2 mdWXW9uZdjo/BtdJ X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 217.72.192.75 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205074 Archived-At: On 02.07.2016 08:32, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: Andreas Röhler >> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:04:08 +0200 >> >> BTW think at the fate of bazaar. Here Python was at stake and for a time >> it growed quickly. Assume the easiness of Python as a factor of success. >> But finally a C-based tool won the race, while bazaar went into bigger >> and bigger issues. Why? :-) > Bazaar is fast enough. Its dropping out of favor was due to the fact > that that it stopped being actively maintained. AFAIK before Emacs switched to it and after considerable efforts been put into it. Nonetheless the complains being slow multiplied. You must have seen the echo here on this list. Assume from a certain point it grow that complex, it ended up unmaintainable. Too many commits and extensions, not enough tests, not enough discuss and reflection.