From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 09:00:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: < <87egc7evu3.fsf@gnus.org>> <<83io1jpt4u.fsf@gnu.org> <87povqhj25.fsf@gnus.org> <87povqe5tr.fsf@gnus.org> <87ziuta4l4.fsf@gnus.org> <87y4adzcia.fsf@gnus.org>> < <83twl0k1k5.fsf@gnu.org>> < <83k2lvi99c.fsf@gnu.org>> < <83oab6gfiw.fsf@gnu.org>> < <878u29x8vl.fsf@fastmail.fm>> < <83ziuncpch.fsf@gnu.org>> < <83fuwecztu.fsf@gnu.org>> < <83d1rhc48o.fsf@gnu.org>> <> <<83oab0ako0.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1456678935 18081 80.91.229.3 (28 Feb 2016 17:02:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 17:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, larsi@gnus.org, johnw@gnu.org, lokedhs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 28 18:02:03 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aa4jK-00059b-Ks for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 18:02:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59794 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aa4jJ-000757-Sq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 12:02:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57357) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aa4iA-0005ov-Et for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 12:00:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aa4i9-0002iM-Lg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 12:00:50 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:51121) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aa4i5-0002hN-CV; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 12:00:45 -0500 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u1SH0bH9032281 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 28 Feb 2016 17:00:37 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u1SH0a4W022301 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 28 Feb 2016 17:00:37 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u1SH0aZl031310; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 17:00:36 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83oab0ako0.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200769 Archived-At: > > For the release, I think we should turn it off by default > > and invite people to try turning it on. >=20 > That would be a grave mistake, IMO, since at least some parts of > folding are a must, and no one objected to them till now (neither > would I expect to see any objections). See my other message for > details. Some parts are a must? Which parts, and a must for what? A must for the _default_ behavior?