From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: adding consistent extra symbols to input methods (cyrillic-*, croatian-*, slov*, czech-* etc.) input methods Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:52:17 +0900 Message-ID: References: <86lk19mmua.fsf@lifelogs.com> <485298A4.30000@gnu.org> <867ict8awn.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87tzfvj16y.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <86lk12zee7.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86r6acqbif.fsf@lifelogs.com> <864p76lp60.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87ej66ubkv.fsf@jurta.org> <87d4lqlj2v.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87tzey1sri.fsf@jurta.org> <87r6a2czcv.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87tzexshu5.fsf@jurta.org> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1215744758 19873 80.91.229.12 (11 Jul 2008 02:52:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 02:52:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 11 04:53:25 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KH8lB-0007OE-6Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 04:53:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42239 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KH8kJ-0008S8-Lu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:52:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KH8kF-0008RZ-7R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:52:27 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KH8kD-0008RL-Hv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:52:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60624 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KH8kD-0008RI-Ci for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:52:25 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.206]:45082) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KH8k9-0006AG-UN; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:52:22 -0400 Original-Received: from relay31.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.54]) by tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m6B2qDqv002304; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:52:19 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay31.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.16] [10.29.19.16]) by relay31.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:52:19 +0900 Original-Received: from dhapc248.dev.necel.com ([10.114.112.215] [10.114.112.215]) by relay31.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:52:19 +0900 Original-Received: by dhapc248.dev.necel.com (Postfix, from userid 31295) id E0D0F58C; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:52:18 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: <87tzexshu5.fsf@jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:43:59 +0300") Original-Lines: 20 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100570 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: > As I see, there is no new rfc. And rfc1345 is criticized because it was > published without review, contains errors, and is inconsistent with the > Unicode data. Without these drawbacks it would be a good input method. > There is a relevant thread: > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.general/26127 I read though that thread, and it comes to no real conclusion. rfc1345 clearly has flaws, but it actually _does_ have some practical utility. This was pointed out (repeatedly) in that thread, but the objectors seemed unable to suggest a practical alternative (and the most vocal objectors seemed rather clueless to tell the truth). Unless there is a better replacement in-kind, there seems no point to removing the rfc1345 input method. -Miles -- 80% of success is just showing up. --Woody Allen