From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default of jit-lock-stealth-time Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:10:30 +0900 Message-ID: References: <85tzxazb8r.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87ps7x4clj.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> <85irdpweuq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87ejocik1a.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1172542258 30333 80.91.229.12 (27 Feb 2007 02:10:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 27 03:10:51 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HLrnm-0007nA-Sq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:10:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HLrnm-0000eU-Vp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:10:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HLrnb-0000e5-MP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:10:39 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HLrnZ-0000dp-AE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:10:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HLrnZ-0000dm-2t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:10:37 -0500 Original-Received: from tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.206]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HLrnW-0004yl-KF; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:10:35 -0500 Original-Received: from relay11.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.46]) by tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1R2AWUX021131; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:10:32 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay11.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.20] [10.29.19.20]) by relay11.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:10:31 +0900 Original-Received: from dhapc248.dev.necel.com ([10.114.97.235] [10.114.97.235]) by relay11.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:10:31 +0900 Original-Received: by dhapc248.dev.necel.com (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 585A23B7; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:10:30 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon\, 26 Feb 2007 19\:43\:47 -0500") Original-Lines: 22 X-detected-kernel: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:66893 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > So to observe that stealth fontification provides you with some benefit, you > have to turn it off and see if jit-lock behaves worse. Sure, but there's little incentive to do so, so the rather heavy-handed way you jumped on Eli seems out of place. The implication seemed to be that if he didn't "observe some benefit", then there likely wasn't any (which obviously isn't true). > We know fairly well about the downsides and we know they don't affect > everybody all the time, so this is not the interesting part of > the discussion. It serves to put the strident opposition to stealth fontification in context, I think. -Miles -- Americans are broad-minded people. They'll accept the fact that a person can be an alcoholic, a dope fiend, a wife beater, and even a newspaperman, but if a man doesn't drive, there is something wrong with him. -- Art Buchwald