From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:58:26 +0900 Message-ID: References: <87d3w2ncqs.fsf_-_@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1275983936 15117 80.91.229.12 (8 Jun 2010 07:58:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 07:58:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 08 09:58:52 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLthw-0003hE-41 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:58:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57127 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OLthv-00042N-9G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 03:58:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43148 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OLthl-00042E-0F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 03:58:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLthj-0003jx-PT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 03:58:36 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.193]:62389) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLthe-0003id-2X; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 03:58:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.184]) by tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id o587wRk4017592; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:58:27 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) id o587wRj08302; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:58:27 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay51.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.60]) by vgate01.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILSV-NEC) with ESMTP id o587wR408211; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:58:27 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay11.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.24] [10.29.19.24]) by relay51.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:58:26 +0900 Original-Received: from dhlpc061 ([10.114.113.131] [10.114.113.131]) by relay11.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:58:26 +0900 Original-Received: by dhlpc061 (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 5C5D552E003; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:58:26 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: <87d3w2ncqs.fsf_-_@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:22:51 +0200") Original-Lines: 18 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125628 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > Since we opened that can of worms already by making C-f/C-b do logical > motion as opposed to the arrow keys doing visual motion We did? My, that's stupid... > I should think > it would make sense to disconnect C-n/C-p from the vertical arrow keys God, please, no. The arrow keys should not be special. -Miles -- Bacchus, n. A convenient deity invented by the ancients as an excuse for getting drunk.