From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Showing end of buffer Date: 23 Apr 2003 10:35:51 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1051061919 16255 80.91.224.249 (23 Apr 2003 01:38:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 01:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 23 03:38:37 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1989DZ-0004Dz-00 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 03:38:37 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 1989J5-0004MF-00 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 03:44:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 1989E7-0008Ov-04 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:39:11 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 1989DS-0007yo-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:38:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 1989DB-0007gw-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:38:13 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.214]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 1989DA-0007cI-00; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:38:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.197])h3N1c8q12260; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:38:09 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) id h3N1c8q05250; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:38:08 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from edsgm02.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.50.208.12]) by mailsv.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILSV-NEC) with ESMTP id h3N1Zqa12127; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:38:07 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) id KAA11322; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:35:52 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) with ESMTP id h3N1ZpNH021770; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:35:51 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 4CB7537D2; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:35:51 +0900 (JST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 16 Original-cc: keichwa@gmx.net X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13376 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13376 Richard Stallman writes: > Perhaps the scroll bar arrows could change into some other shape > when there is no further distance to scroll. There are two problems I see with this -- (1) it may not be possible with all the toolkit scrollbars (and at the least will require separate code for each one), and (2) only works if you've got scrollbars turned on. Personally, I often turn off the scrollbars, so a solution using the fringe would be nice [anyway, as the fringe is reserved space that's often empty, it'd be nice to have more uses for it!] -Miles -- We live, as we dream -- alone....