From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: the FTP files Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:50:34 +0900 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1164693107 12137 80.91.229.2 (28 Nov 2006 05:51:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:51:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 28 06:51:42 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GovsP-0003d5-U0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 06:51:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GovsP-0004DG-5u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 00:51:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Govrg-0003sE-Qf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 00:50:44 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Govre-0003qn-Ok for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 00:50:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Govre-0003qb-45 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 00:50:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [210.143.35.52] (helo=tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GovrZ-0006hm-HD; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 00:50:38 -0500 Original-Received: from relay31.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.54]) by tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id kAS5oZwo016290; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:50:35 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay11.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.20] [10.29.19.20]) by relay31.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:50:35 +0900 Original-Received: from dhapc248.dev.necel.com ([10.114.97.235] [10.114.97.235]) by relay11.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:50:35 +0900 Original-Received: by dhapc248.dev.necel.com (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 4B1E73FB; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:50:35 +0900 (JST) Original-To: Glenn Morris System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue\, 28 Nov 2006 00\:05\:19 -0500") Original-Lines: 33 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:62913 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > Does information about how to get Scheme and Tex really need to be in > the Emacs distribution? Well the filename "FTP" itself seems a bit out-of-date, but... TeX seems relevant because Emacs uses it to produce printed documentation. However the ftp site mentioned in Emacs no longer works. It would probably be more useful to just mention the typical tex packages users might install from their OS distribution (I think "texlive" and "tetex" are the main ones for unix-like systems), and then maybe point at something like http://www.tug.org/ for more general information. Scheme, I dunno, but it seems to me it's only a few lines, and there's some nostalgia value to keeping at least a small blurb. Morever the ftp site still works[*] (though the latest thing on there seems to be about 5 years old :-)! [Hey, who doesn't like scheme? :-] The swiss-project's general scheme page might be a better thing to point to; it has a well-written short introduction and a bunch of (reasonably up-to-date) links to pages for mit-scheme, guile, etc.: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/projects/scheme/ [*] Though the server there seems a bit funny, it didn't get along the first ftp client I tried. -Miles -- We live, as we dream -- alone....