From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: bind a hotkey to toggle variable Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:10:48 +0900 Organization: NEC Electronics Message-ID: References: <4314c1f70907110928j2b12bc95v51e4c785a9fee6f2@mail.gmail.com> <428DAEDA942B4A9B8ABBD00EF40F54DB@us.oracle.com> <4314c1f70907121936r6a74003aya2bb42b1bfb56d35@mail.gmail.com> <4314c1f70907122012j638e717cw984a0defd893455f@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247481874 6451 80.91.229.12 (13 Jul 2009 10:44:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:44:34 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 13 12:44:27 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MQJ1C-0006T4-4p for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:44:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38424 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MQJ1B-0001Xv-FQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:44:21 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Trace: individual.net 8QdBC15H440YNtQBntiNjACCiLBeUzZaVw2LdiByitYmjYxNeL Cancel-Lock: sha1:uUxg2b26qmj2NAnTbkTvU4PUZsA= sha1:AsQdZ9sTrgF5If5+Q/vRUQbEUog= System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Blat: Foop Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:170821 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:66019 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: > Frankly, I'm always surprised that, 20-30 years after the introduction of > graphic displays and window managers, most people still use Emacs windows, not > frames, for most buffers. Doesn't seem particular surprising -- Emacs windows are generally much easier to manipulate and behave better than frames controlled by the system's window manager, especially for short-lived windows (and this is despite many well-known shortcomings in Emacs window manipulation, e.g., those which ECB tries to hack around). If you look at many other modern apps, they do exactly the same thing, though they may not use the term "window" for their internal windows (maybe they call them "panels" or "widgets' or whatever) and may not allow as much user manipulation as Emacs does. Still, the division in to large relatively static system-controlled windows (emacs frames) and small more dynamic app-controlled windows within them seems like a pretty well established practice. -Miles -- Cabbage, n. A familiar kitchen-garden vegetable about as large and wise as a man's head.