From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Insert Euro symbol Date: 07 May 2002 18:12:36 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87elgue23x.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> <8296-Fri03May2002092555+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> <87g019a4mz.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> <87helojvjx.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200205050534.g455YUP01610@aztec.santafe.edu> <200205060624.g466OSX01970@aztec.santafe.edu> <200205061932.g46JWUU02242@aztec.santafe.edu> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020773990 19354 127.0.0.1 (7 May 2002 12:19:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 12:19:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE, stephen@xemacs.org, eliz@is.elta.co.il, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 1753wb-000523-00 for ; Tue, 07 May 2002 14:19:49 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17544E-0004J6-00 for ; Tue, 07 May 2002 14:27:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 1753wE-00085D-00; Tue, 07 May 2002 08:19:26 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp ([210.143.35.52]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17513K-0004eY-00; Tue, 07 May 2002 05:14:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.193]) by TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W01080315) with ESMTP id g479D0R25042; Tue, 7 May 2002 18:13:00 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mailsv4.nec.co.jp (mailgate51.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.196]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id g479CtA13459; Tue, 7 May 2002 18:12:58 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.30.114.133]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id g479Cgr22220; Tue, 7 May 2002 18:12:46 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) by mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.10.2+Sun/3.7Wlsi_mx_6.0) with ESMTP id g479CbK13564; Tue, 7 May 2002 18:12:37 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 8C57D3722; Tue, 7 May 2002 18:12:36 +0900 (JST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: <200205061932.g46JWUU02242@aztec.santafe.edu> Original-Lines: 19 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3664 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3664 Richard Stallman writes: > I see your point, and it would require zero additional change to > permit input methods that were intended for use only in C-x 8. But I > tend to think they won't be useful, because it won't be worth learning > a different input method just for use within C-x 8. That's true, but the sort of `special input method' Kai is talking about is, I think, intended to make C-x 8 _easier_ to remember, by adding multiple redundant ways of getting the same character (something which you don't want to do with a usual input method, because it steals too many bindings that would normally be used for self-insertion). E.g., =E9 might be typable using both C-x 8 ' e and C-x 8 e ' That way, users won't have to remember whether C-x 8 requires accents to be a prefix or a suffix. -Miles --=20 80% of success is just showing up. --Woody Allen