From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bugs caused by recent use of define-derived-mode Date: 06 Sep 2002 11:31:59 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200209020237.VAA26080@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <200209021629.g82GTY707192@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200209022302.SAA26633@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <200209031506.g83F6Yh12528@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200209031536.KAA27166@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <200209032123.QAA28184@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <200209040001.TAA28292@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <200209060211.VAA03128@eel.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031279545 3894 127.0.0.1 (6 Sep 2002 02:32:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 02:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE, rms@gnu.org, monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17n8uz-00010X-00 for ; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 04:32:21 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17n9Ux-0001it-00 for ; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 05:09:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17n8wc-000200-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 22:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17n8up-0001xL-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 22:32:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17n8un-0001ws-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 22:32:10 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.202]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17n8um-0001wf-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 22:32:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.197]) by TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W01080315) with ESMTP id g862W4425760; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:32:04 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mailsv4.nec.co.jp (mailgate51.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.190]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id g862W2508024; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:32:03 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.30.114.133]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id g862Vxh21314; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:32:01 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) by mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.10.2+Sun/3.7Wlsi_mx_6.0) with ESMTP id g862Vxs26766; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:31:59 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 1AF5C36F4; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:31:59 +0900 (JST) Original-To: Luc Teirlinck System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: <200209060211.VAA03128@eel.dms.auburn.edu> Original-Lines: 18 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7596 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7596 Luc Teirlinck writes: > Even if mail-mode had a separate abbrev-table from text-mode, it would > seem that I would like the vast majority the local abbrevs I defined > in mail-mode to expand in text-mode too and hence the > text-mode-abbrev-table would actually be a more logical default for > C-x a l than the mail-mode abbrev-table. Perhaps that's true for you (though your example actually seems to contradict your conclusion!), but I suspect it's not for most people. Mail messages are a fairly specialized subset of text in general. In the end, it comes down to `your mileage may vary'; different people will have different preferences, but we've got to pick one or the other for the default. -Miles -- I'd rather be consing.