From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gtk scroll bar: upstream bug report Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:04:04 +0900 Message-ID: References: <4E19DD79.3030309@swipnet.se> <87fwmd2qo4.fsf@pobox.com> <4E1ACE25.5090000@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310461516 31101 80.91.229.12 (12 Jul 2011 09:05:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:05:16 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 12 11:05:13 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgYu0-0002F1-Jt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:05:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37955 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgYty-0006d2-Fy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:05:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48845) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgYtF-0006XG-Mb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:04:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgYtD-0005Ot-EO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:04:24 -0400 Original-Received: from relmlor1.renesas.com ([210.160.252.171]:50875) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgYtC-0005Ob-RQ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:04:23 -0400 Original-Received: from relmlir4.idc.renesas.com ([10.200.68.154]) by relmlor1.idc.renesas.com ( SJSMS) with ESMTP id <0LO7003GMQIWXI00@relmlor1.idc.renesas.com>; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:04:08 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relmlac1.idc.renesas.com ([10.200.69.21]) by relmlir4.idc.renesas.com ( SJSMS) with ESMTP id <0LO700ER7QIW5FC0@relmlir4.idc.renesas.com>; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:04:08 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by relmlac1.idc.renesas.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 1EE1C8015B; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:04:05 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relmlac1.idc.renesas.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relmlac1.idc.renesas.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1918028F; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:04:05 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relmlii1.idc.renesas.com [10.200.68.65] by relmlac1.idc.renesas.com with ESMTP id UAY29357; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:04:05 +0900 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,520,1304262000"; d="scan'208";a="36408650" Original-Received: from unknown (HELO relay21.aps.necel.com) ([10.29.19.50]) by relmlii1.idc.renesas.com with ESMTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:04:04 +0900 Original-Received: from relay21.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.50] [10.29.19.50]) by relay21.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:04:04 +0900 Original-Received: from dhlpc061 ([10.114.97.129] [10.114.97.129]) by relay21.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:04:04 +0900 Original-Received: by dhlpc061 (Postfix, from userid 31295) id A443652E22E; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:04:04 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-reply-to: Original-Lines: 19 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-Received-From: 210.160.252.171 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141974 Archived-At: Richard Riley writes: >> I got the impression that scrollbars is even further away from the >> Emacs model nowdays. The minimum size requirement for the scroll >> bar thumb is more common with new fancy themes. The Emacs model is >> simply incompatible. > > How is it incompatible? There were many positive suggestions in that > old thread. Certainly the impression I got from the old discussions was that it wasn't so much that it was _difficult_ to support the Emacs model, but rather that they wanted to _prevent_ apps from using such a model because they thought it was bad (for the user?). -Miles -- Friendless, adj. Having no favors to bestow. Destitute of fortune. Addicted to utterance of truth and common sense.