From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:58:42 +0900 Message-ID: References: <22603146-A346-4FC2-8D74-5D6047865C3A@mit.edu> <87r5nf8s7q.fsf@siart.de> <87pr2ygbii.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87tys9180s.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ocih158i.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269320348 7424 80.91.229.12 (23 Mar 2010 04:59:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 04:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Kastrup , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 23 05:59:03 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NtwCl-00025b-0Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 05:59:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49849 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NtwCk-0002dZ-1t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:59:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NtwCb-0002dU-Re for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:58:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43837 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NtwCZ-0002dM-Oz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:58:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NtwCY-0007ev-Pn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:58:51 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.193]:35942) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NtwCW-0007e0-1E; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:58:48 -0400 Original-Received: from relay21.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.50]) by tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id o2N4waqx016763; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:58:43 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay11.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.16] [10.29.19.16]) by relay21.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:58:43 +0900 Original-Received: from dhlpc061 ([10.114.112.30] [10.114.112.30]) by relay11.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:58:43 +0900 Original-Received: by dhlpc061 (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 272A252E21F; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:58:43 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:29:38 +0100") Original-Lines: 21 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122529 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: >> But other than that, shift-selection should be the same as t-m-m-style >> selection as far as possible -- for instance, there should not be a >> different set of commands available for "shift-selected" regions than >> there are for regions created using traditional Emacs commands. > > I think some of these problems have been addressed in cua-mode. Maybe > it would be good to use what is in cua-mode more? Er, what "problems" do you mean? Shift-select (without CUA mode) works quite well currently. What I'm arguing against is David/RMS's apparent goal of making shift-select _worse_... [and CUA mode is generally such a mess that I'm very skeptical of adopting anything from it...] -Miles -- P.S. All information contained in the above letter is false, for reasons of military security.