From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Software/HD ecology (was Re:...Bug in Emacs 21.3.50) Date: 13 Dec 2002 10:30:21 +0900 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <041220020952400758%ajanta@no.spam> <56cfb0e3.0212041458.5eab182a@posting.google.com> <061220020416350201%ajanta@no.spam> <84bs3xsyi8.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <071220021155280606%ajanta@no.spam> <5ld6obj8il.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <091220021652087216%ajanta@no.spam> <101220021125583826%ajanta@no.spam> <111220021101520860%ajanta@no.spam> <111220021253524057%ajanta@no.spam> <5l65u0i8zj.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <111220022053507599%ajanta@no.spam> <5l1y4niayi.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <121220021352537730%ajanta@no.spam> <121220021431246381%anil@null.invalid> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1039743898 6745 80.91.224.249 (13 Dec 2002 01:44:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 01:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18Mesq-0001ke-00 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 02:44:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18Meox-00021t-02 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:40:55 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18Mejm-0000S0-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:35:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18Mefp-00076x-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:31:32 -0500 Original-Received: from tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.202]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18Meey-0006sz-00; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:30:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.195])gBD1UYU23461; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:30:34 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mailsv4.nec.co.jp (mailgate51.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.190]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id gBD1UQx04305; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:30:31 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.30.114.133]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id gBD1UMq26129; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:30:25 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) id gBD1ULB09138; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:30:21 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 31295) id BB7433701; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:30:21 +0900 (JST) Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: <121220021431246381%anil@null.invalid> Original-Lines: 17 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:4603 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:4603 Anil Trivedi writes: > Unix was conceptualized for small systems and programs, where a user > might know every file, and actually need it. Indeed, he either wrote it > himself or copied from a friend he knew, and it was all in one > language, whatever it happened to be. > > Now we have hundreds of thousands of files, know nothing about them, > and routinely install packages that bring thousands of files and > support more languages than the United Nations! All well and good, but > as the system grows, the culture and the tools need to keep up too. Feel free to plan the revolution, but this has little to do with emacs... -Miles -- Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. -- Jerry Garcia