From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: doc elisp intro cross reference fixes Date: 21 Nov 2003 13:28:18 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87wua28zux.fsf@zip.com.au> <87ad6vdsxi.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200311190418.hAJ4ITC02466@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200311190528.hAJ5SrK02553@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <3FBBD155.2050703@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1069389096 30243 80.91.224.253 (21 Nov 2003 04:31:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 04:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ihs_4664@yahoo.com, Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 21 05:31:33 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AN2xA-0004zD-00 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:31:32 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AN2xA-0006QT-00 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:31:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AN3tX-0005xO-7u for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:31:51 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AN3tR-0005v4-Ln for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:31:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AN3st-0005mP-Ud for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:31:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [202.32.8.214] (helo=TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AN3st-0005lA-76; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:31:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mailgate3.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.186]) by TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W01080315) with ESMTP id hAL4Tcc14594; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:29:38 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate3.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) id hAL4TbY25729; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:29:37 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from edsgm01.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.50.208.11]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id hAL4Taa10341; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:29:37 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edsgm01.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.9.3p2+3.2W/3.7W_EDC_Ver.1.0) with ESMTP id NAA29961; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:29:36 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from localhost (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) by mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.12.10/8.12.8/EDcg v2.01-mc/1046780839) with ESMTP id hAL4TY7Q000146; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:29:35 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 90BD110097; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:28:18 +0900 (JST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 18 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:18005 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:18005 Richard Stallman writes: > What is the benefit ? Why should something be only allowed via M-x > customize-variable but not via M-x set-variable (and vice-versa, BTW) ? > > Maybe it would be ok to use customizability as the criterion > for user-variable-p. However, I am not sure it would be an improvement > over the current way of handling things. Doing so would at least get rid of the current confusing distinction between these two type of `user variables'. It would also make using `customization only' variables simpler for those people that don't like the normal heavy-weight customize user interface. Are there really disadvantages great enough to offset those advantages? -Miles -- The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --Albert Einstein