From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Annoying paren match messages in minibuffer Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:26:03 +0900 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231813595 16588 80.91.229.12 (13 Jan 2009 02:26:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Geoff Gole , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 13 03:27:47 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LMZ0C-000537-1c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:27:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36681 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LMYyv-0002Wi-Ku for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:26:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LMYyr-0002WU-HC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:26:13 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LMYyp-0002WI-6a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:26:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36995 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LMYyp-0002WF-18 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:26:11 -0500 Original-Received: from tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.206]:52534) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LMYym-00059Q-DJ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:26:09 -0500 Original-Received: from relay31.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.54]) by tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n0D2Q3hT006954; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:26:03 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay31.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.20] [10.29.19.20]) by relay31.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:26:03 +0900 Original-Received: from dhapc248.dev.necel.com ([10.114.113.195] [10.114.113.195]) by relay31.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:26:03 +0900 Original-Received: by dhapc248.dev.necel.com (Postfix, from userid 31295) id A02725E7; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:26:03 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:20:38 -0500") Original-Lines: 20 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:107815 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > Maybe the problem can be fixed by changing the way the message is > displayed. E.g. it could be displayed as " [unmatched paren]" at the > end of the minibuffer input, as is done for minibuffer > completion messages. I think all messages should be. I've used experimental code to do that in the past, and it was _really_ nice. No stupid awkward pauses and annoyance like the current method, everything just seemed *right*. However, for whatever reason, the last time this subject came up on emacs-devel, it proved controversial [of course, it seems like pretty much _every_ change is controversial on emacs-devel...]. -Miles -- Abstainer, n. A weak person who yields to the temptation of denying himself a pleasure. A total abstainer is one who abstains from everything but abstention, and especially from inactivity in the affairs of others.