From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Ibuffer as default Date: 11 Mar 2003 17:49:21 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200303102328.h2ANSN6V027594@rum.cs.yale.edu> <87adg21h0v.fsf@china.shootybangbang.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1047372789 21792 80.91.224.249 (11 Mar 2003 08:53:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 11 09:53:08 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18sfVU-0005fM-00 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:53:08 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18sfs9-0005Rd-00 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:16:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18sfVB-00044d-03 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:52:49 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18sfUb-00043D-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:52:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18sfSm-0003Le-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:50:21 -0500 Original-Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp ([210.143.35.51]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18sfRy-00036M-00; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:49:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.193])h2B8nPw01786; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:49:25 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mailsv4.nec.co.jp (mailgate51.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.196]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id h2B8nOI05216; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:49:24 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from edtmg05.edc.nec.co.jp (edtmg05.edc.nec.co.jp [10.26.17.202]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id h2B8nNH04478; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:49:23 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) RAA23955; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:49:22 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) with ESMTP id h2B8nMNH012544; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:49:22 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 31295) id E7F343712; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:49:21 +0900 (JST) Original-To: John Paul Wallington System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: <87adg21h0v.fsf@china.shootybangbang.com> Original-Lines: 20 Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12265 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12265 John Paul Wallington writes: > I recently changed it to work better, especially for relatively > default cases like emacs -nw and Emacs under X with a left-sided > scrollbar and left-sided fringe (before it just used one space char > regardless). But it seems doomed to lose given unusual settings. Is > there a straight-forward way to cons up pixel-perfect spacing, say as > a display property ? Yeah, given the popularity of using it for showing aligned stuff, there definitively should at least be an option for the header-line to start exactly at the text's left edge. This could even be something as simple as a boolean variable I think, or a magic `%' escape in header-line-format. Stefan's problem (different font) seems a lot harder though... -Miles -- o The existentialist, not having a pillow, goes everywhere with the book by Sullivan, _I am going to spit on your graves_.