From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bug Database? Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:19:15 +0900 Message-ID: References: <17717.20433.183356.106695@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17718.15996.727727.91417@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1161365859 12213 80.91.229.2 (20 Oct 2006 17:37:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:37:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 20 19:37:37 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GayJJ-0003gt-PC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:37:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GayJJ-0001Av-97 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:37:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Gak2a-0006vj-6U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:23:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Gak2X-0006vB-RH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:23:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gak2X-0006v8-LP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:23:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [203.180.232.81] (helo=mgate01.necel.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gak2W-00039O-Ga; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:23:17 -0400 Original-Received: from relay31.aps.necel.com (relay31 [10.29.19.54]) by mgate01.necel.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9K1Evh5008736; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:23:06 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay11.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.24] [10.29.19.24]) by relay31.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:23:06 +0900 Original-Received: from dhapc248.dev.necel.com ([10.114.97.235] [10.114.97.235]) by relay11.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:23:06 +0900 Original-Received: by dhapc248.dev.necel.com (Postfix, from userid 31295) id D90874B; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:19:15 +0900 (JST) Original-To: Frank Schmitt System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: (Frank Schmitt's message of "Thu\, 19 Oct 2006 09\:04\:55 +0200") Original-Lines: 31 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:60935 Archived-At: Frank Schmitt writes: > Which results in the fact that gdb is since years completely unusable > for C++ programs relying on templated functions. Well, while I'll admit that the last I looked[*] the gdb internals were awful, unreadable, and barely maintainable code, this statement simply isn't true. [*] Many years ago, so take this with a grain of salt. I spend lots of time debugging heavily templated C++ code in gdb, and basically there are few problems (other than the canonical "optimized code can be confusing in the debugger" issues). While debugging around templates requires a bit of knowledge about what's actually going on, it's no different than many other general debugging problems; you run into minor annoyances, and you quickly find ways around them. > So most C++ developers I know have switched to the "free as in free > beer but not free as in free software" debugger from Sun Studio which > in contrast to gdb works really well. I suspect this has more to do with the sort of developers you know than with gdb. -Miles -- (\(\ (^.^) (")") *This is the cute bunny virus, please copy this into your sig so it can spread.