From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: isearch multiple buffers Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:21:27 +0900 Message-ID: References: <87odfcggvl.fsf@jurta.org> <878x6a6ktw.fsf@jurta.org> <871wc15m2b.fsf@jurta.org> <87lk9ylkbb.fsf@jurta.org> <87hckk9uoa.fsf@jurta.org> <87abqcrq9p.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <471BE5D3.3050007@gmail.com> <87y7dwq7x9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87odepv21n.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ir4wjcev.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1193293328 31147 80.91.229.12 (25 Oct 2007 06:22:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 25 08:22:09 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ikw6Z-0006bQ-Jk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:22:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ikw6Q-0007SR-U1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:21:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ikw6N-0007SM-4T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:21:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ikw6I-0007Rv-2E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:21:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ikw6H-0007Rs-R5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:21:49 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.206]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ikw6B-0005LD-9o; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:21:43 -0400 Original-Received: from relay31.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.54]) by tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l9P6LSjE029883; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:21:28 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay31.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.24] [10.29.19.24]) by relay31.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:21:28 +0900 Original-Received: from dhapc248.dev.necel.com ([10.114.112.215] [10.114.112.215]) by relay31.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:21:28 +0900 Original-Received: by dhapc248.dev.necel.com (Postfix, from userid 31295) id AFAE74E0; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:21:27 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu\, 25 Oct 2007 06\:15\:59 +0200") Original-Lines: 34 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:81685 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Because the 8.3 name restriction has a negative effect for _all_ >> developers. > > What negative effects? can you show them in the archives? AFAIR, this > is about the first such issue in years. It's a periodic event. Someone adds a file, then someone else says "hey rename that, it conflicts in 8.3-space with mumble-mumble." Usually the new name is uglier. No I'm not going to spend the time searching for archive references. It's not the worst burden in the world, but it's stupid. I don't _want_ to pick substandard names for new files unless there's actually a benefit to doing so, and in that case the "benefit" seems pretty elusive. Does _anybody_ use msdos Emacs? I'm sure there are 2 or 3 remaining machines that run msdos, but it seems a pretty good bet that they're being used for industrial control in a factory somewhere, not for running an up-to-date versions of emacs. Even the most conservative users have moved on to windows or some other system by now. Are we _ever_ going to drop support for this silly obsolete relic? Does anybody else still support msdos? In the end it's a cost-benefit analysis. Sure the cost of supporting msdos is fairly small -- but the benefits seem far smaller. -Miles -- Americans are broad-minded people. They'll accept the fact that a person can be an alcoholic, a dope fiend, a wife beater, and even a newspaperman, but if a man doesn't drive, there is something wrong with him. -- Art Buchwald