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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: tromey@redhat.com, phil@hagelb.org, joakim@verona.se,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Package Management
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:30:03 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <buok500y5is.fsf@dhlpc061.dev.necel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1MnSHS-0002lQ-No@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:16:50 -0400")

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> That's more or less what we've been doing.  Originally I strove very
> hard to keep Emacs itself small.  Many basic and obviously useful
> functions were not standardly available, but they were in CL.  Since
> then we have made a number of them standard, and we could certainly
> do this for more of them in the future when it seems best.
>
> But some of the CL facilities are overly complex.  And some,
> specifically setf and friends, are not implemented quite right in the
> Emacs context, which makes them ugly to include.

Some suggestions for core:

  * remove-if / delete-if / remove-if-not / delete-if-not
     (_without_ the CL keyword arguments)

    [These are very handy for filtering lists of values.  The keyword
     arguments are not very important, and keywordless core versions
     would be compatible with keyword-supporting cl.el versions in the
     same way that core `dolist' is compatible with cl.el `dolist']
    

  * mapcan

    [Useful for mapping when there isn't a 1-1 relationship between
    argument list elements and result list elements]


  * multiple-argument mapping (mapcar, mapc, etc) functions

    [Useful and obvious generalization of existing mapping functions;
     Gnus already contains its own implementation of a multiple-argument
     mapcar]


[I think all of these are simple and practical.]

-Miles

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-15  8:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-01 21:27 Emacs Package Management Stephen Eilert
2008-08-01 22:58 ` Tom Tromey
2008-08-01 23:14   ` Phil Hagelberg
2008-08-01 23:25     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-02  0:13       ` Tom Tromey
2008-08-03  1:33     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-03 18:03       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-04 15:33         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-04 19:07           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-05  8:04             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-05 13:09               ` Stephen Eilert
2008-08-05 14:39                 ` Paul R
2008-08-06  3:35                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2009-09-16 22:36                   ` Stephen Eilert
2009-09-17  1:44                     ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17 13:43                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-17 14:26                         ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17 14:58                         ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-28 21:13                         ` Phil Hagelberg
2009-09-28 21:48                           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-09-28 21:54                           ` Chong Yidong
2009-09-28 22:30                             ` Phil Hagelberg
2009-09-29 11:31                             ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-29 19:18                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-29 19:41                                 ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-30  1:20                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-30  2:07                                     ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-30  4:39                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-30 20:18                                 ` Tom Tromey
2009-10-01  5:01                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-02  1:58   ` Stephen Eilert
2008-08-02  3:36     ` Tom Tromey
2008-08-02 17:30     ` Richard M Stallman
2008-08-12  4:10   ` Thomas Lord
2009-09-12 22:38   ` Phil Hagelberg
2009-09-12 23:30     ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-13 16:40     ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-14  9:07       ` joakim
2009-09-14  9:26         ` David Kastrup
2009-09-15  7:16         ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-15  8:30           ` Miles Bader [this message]
2009-09-15 18:15             ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-15 18:58             ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-15 22:08               ` Miles Bader
2009-09-16 15:16               ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-16 18:41             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-17  1:05               ` Geoff Gole
2009-09-17 19:50                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-15 18:55       ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17  6:37         ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-17  8:28           ` Tassilo Horn
2009-09-17  8:37             ` joakim
2009-09-17  8:48               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-09-17  9:31               ` Tassilo Horn
2009-09-17 10:43                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-09-17 11:50                 ` Rupert Swarbrick
2009-09-19  2:40                   ` Bob Rogers
2009-09-19 12:10                     ` Rupert Swarbrick
2009-09-17 14:24                 ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17 19:22                   ` Tassilo Horn
2009-09-17 15:04                 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-17 13:46               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-17 14:21             ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-13 17:00     ` Eric Schulte
2008-08-02 14:46 ` Paul R

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