From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: escape-glyph issues Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:33:39 +0900 Message-ID: Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1119229214 19089 80.91.229.2 (20 Jun 2005 01:00:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 20 03:00:12 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DkAdp-0002pV-8c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 02:59:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DkAjw-00087D-E4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:06:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DkAik-0007gP-Mv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DkAfT-0006vA-OO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:01:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DkAfO-0006hx-US for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:01:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [202.32.8.214] (helo=tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DkAGz-0000xY-6q; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:36:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailgate3.nec.co.jp (mailgate54.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.197]) by tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W01080315) with ESMTP id j5K0Xfn23382; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:33:41 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate3.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) id j5K0XfZ11410; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:33:41 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay21.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.50]) by mailsv.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILSV-NEC) with ESMTP id j5K0Xf216852; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:33:41 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay31.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.20] [10.29.19.20]) by relay21.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:33:41 +0900 Original-Received: from edsgm01.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.50.208.11] [10.50.208.11]) by relay31.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:33:41 +0900 Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edsgm01.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5K0Xe4J011864; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:33:40 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mctpc71 (mctpc71.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp [10.30.118.121]) by mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.12.10/8.12.8/EDcg v2.01-mc/1046780839) with ESMTP id j5K0XdKt015744; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:33:39 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mctpc71 (Postfix, from userid 31295) id C3DE7598; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:33:39 +0900 (JST) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop Original-Lines: 20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:39135 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:39135 Juri made the following change without discussion: 2005-06-06 Juri Linkov * faces.el (escape-glyph): Use less loud colors pink2 and red4. I think this looks far worse on a dark background (it plays the neat trick of being both less visible and more annoying at the same time; I have no opinion on light-background mode as I don't use it). Unless someone can justify this change, I'm going to change it back to the old default (cyan) -- which was decided after _much_ argument. Furthermore, Juri's "no escape for NBSP" change was also made with no discussion, and the related thread sort of petered out after talking about implementation issues. So which do people like better? -Miles -- Is it true that nothing can be known? If so how do we know this? -Woody Allen