From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: basic question: going back to dired Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:46:54 +0900 Organization: NEC Electronics Message-ID: References: <4884DC7F.6060406@gmail.com> <819feff4-76e3-4bf8-9ece-7b47f099efc2@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <87hcaiiatp.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87fxq1rhbf.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216888901 21140 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2008 08:41:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:41:41 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 10:42:30 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLwP3-0000AU-6y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:42:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58452 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLwO9-00034Y-Ha for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:41:29 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Trace: individual.net pMAmTTSicPPdMrRyEt/yKwtvVxrNYKeSYiCqE8qxX21nLnXhru Cancel-Lock: sha1:/QiHvpeLJDKv4D9lAIv508iA0zQ= sha1:vBsI+RBVNk2U4WkJZGwsfuEoqYY= System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:160534 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:55882 Archived-At: "Juanma Barranquero" writes: > We're bound to stick with history. But it is nice (and perhaps even > useful, in some way) to think what benefit would we gain by using a > more common terminology. At least that will compel us to choose more > adequate names for new features. Indeed, but for the most part it seems that many people attempting this (like xahlee) do not really understand the underlying concepts very well, and simply pick the first "modern" term that they believe resembles the emacs term. The result, of course, is predictably a mess. -Miles -- Carefully crafted initial estimates reward you not only with reduced computational effort, but also with understanding and increased self-esteem. -- Numerical methods in C, Chapter 9. "Root Finding and Nonlinear Sets of Equations"