From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Toolbars on MacOSX Date: 12 May 2004 17:44:18 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084351833 27988 80.91.224.253 (12 May 2004 08:50:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:50:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Steven Tamm , Piet van Oostrum , emacs-devel , YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu , "Kim F. Storm" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed May 12 10:50:21 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BNpRU-0001MC-00 for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 10:50:20 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BNpRU-0001nt-00 for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 10:50:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BNpNG-0005Wm-Nv for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 12 May 2004 04:45:58 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BNpMW-0005Uv-J9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2004 04:45:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BNpLx-0005GO-H1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2004 04:45:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [202.32.8.214] (helo=TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BNpLw-0005El-3z; Wed, 12 May 2004 04:44:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp (mailgate53.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.184]) by TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W01080315) with ESMTP id i4C8iOp25481; Wed, 12 May 2004 17:44:26 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) id i4C8iNg27783; Wed, 12 May 2004 17:44:23 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from edtmg04.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.26.17.201]) by mailsv3.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id i4C8iMm21483; Wed, 12 May 2004 17:44:22 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edtmg04.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i4C8iJF8002557; Wed, 12 May 2004 17:44:20 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15 (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) by mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.12.10/8.12.8/EDcg v2.01-mc/1046780839) with ESMTP id i4C8iIaQ013765; Wed, 12 May 2004 17:44:19 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15 (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 55794411; Wed, 12 May 2004 17:44:18 +0900 (JST) Original-To: Jason Rumney System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 15 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:23225 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23225 Jason Rumney writes: > > I've always had this idea that implementing tool-tips natively > > might be easier than porting over the w32 code (which creates a small > > highly-customized frame)... any thoughts? > > With an Emacs frame, you have all the flexibility of Emacs buffers, > should anyone want to take advantage of it in future. FWIW, I regularly use tooltips containing faces, newlines, and non-latin text, all of which I'd be a bit suspicious of the native toolkit handling correctly (well, I guess faces definitely wouldn't work). -Miles -- Suburbia: where they tear out the trees and then name streets after them.