From: Miles Bader <miles@lsi.nec.co.jp>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Setting file-name/process coding system from LANG
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:51:20 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <buo655cercn.fsf@mctpc71.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1CIFuA-0006CS-2i@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 14 Oct 2004 20:25:10 -0400")
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> It seems to me that LANG should be enough to force filenames and process
> I/O coding to use utf-8, regardless of the Emacs language-environment
> setting
>
> Does LANG have this effect on other programs?
In general yes, it seems too. Most importantly, the LANG setting
determines how sub-programs invoked from Emacs encode their error messages,
so Emacs should be using the same encoding for process I/O.
> LANG itself should not control anything in Emacs directly, but maybe
> it should be used toinitialize someting else that would control this.
Yes -- and in fact it _already_ does this in Emacs.
The problem is that setting the Emacs language-environment (with
`set-language-environment') _overrides_ the initial settings made based on
LANG. That's wrong in this case, I think.
BTW, another possibly related issue is that if I start `emacs -q' with
LANG=ja_JP, then the language-environment is automatically set to
"Japanese" -- great! But if I start `emacs -q' with LANG=ja_JP.utf8, then
the language environment is set to "utf-8", and that doesn't make much
sense to me -- indeed the whole concept of a "utf-8 language environment"
seems kind of weird. In this case I think it should instead (1) set the
language-environt to "Japanese", and then (2) set the various I/O encodings
to be `utf-8'.
-Miles
--
We have met the enemy, and he is us. -- Pogo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-15 0:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-13 8:44 Setting file-name/process coding system from LANG Miles Bader
2004-10-15 0:25 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-15 0:51 ` Miles Bader [this message]
2004-10-16 13:53 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-17 0:14 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-25 13:13 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-18 13:04 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-10-19 6:13 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-19 13:13 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-10-19 13:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-20 6:02 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-10-20 10:34 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-19 21:51 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-20 6:21 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-10-20 8:50 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-20 13:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-20 10:34 ` Richard Stallman
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