From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: facemenu-unlisted-faces Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:37:24 +0900 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153283881 22165 80.91.229.2 (19 Jul 2006 04:38:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 04:38:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 19 06:38:00 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G33ot-0006uf-N9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 06:38:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G33ot-0005T5-1Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 00:37:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G33og-0005Sn-0P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 00:37:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G33od-0005SE-MV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 00:37:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G33od-0005SB-JE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 00:37:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [203.180.232.83] (helo=mgate03.necel.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G33re-0004KW-Ks; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 00:40:51 -0400 Original-Received: from relay11.aps.necel.com (relay11 [10.29.19.46]) by mgate03.necel.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k6J2V1gT009999; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:37:40 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay21.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.20] [10.29.19.20]) by relay11.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:37:40 +0900 Original-Received: from dhapc248.dev.necel.com ([10.114.97.235] [10.114.97.235]) by relay21.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:37:40 +0900 Original-Received: by dhapc248.dev.necel.com (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 1323D481; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:37:25 +0900 (JST) Original-To: "Drew Adams" System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 14 Jul 2006 08:06:24 -0700") Original-Lines: 26 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:57318 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: > IOW, you can substitute a different fixed-pitch font family for > Courier, but that's the only way you're supposed to change the > definition of `fixed-pitch'. It's intended to be a very constant face, > but there is a tiny exception. That's not good enough. It's pretty common that you also want to change other attributes -- for instance, the height might need tweaking to make the particular family you chose mesh well with other faces (this is a very common occurance). Similarly, the user might wish to force the face to bold because the font in question is too light compared to the other fonts they use. Frankly I don't know why you seem intent on pushing this point; there seems little to be gained with a "define-constant-face", even if it allowed fine-grained specifications of "constantness". If a user wants to change something that's not normally changed, well ... so what? He probably has his reasons. Some people despise bold fonts, and would rather change the `bold' face to use italic. Why not let them? Emacs won't crash. -Miles -- "Though they may have different meanings, the cries of 'Yeeeee-haw!' and 'Allahu akbar!' are, in spirit, not actually all that different."