From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: visual-line-mode and line wrapping
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 16:37:18 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <buo4ohw1lg1.fsf@dhlpc061.dev.necel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvocg5cij2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 24 May 2010 13:34:32 -0400")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> In the discussion of the trashbin feature, visual-line-mode came up.
>> It seems many of us would like it to be able to wrap lines at
>> a position other than the window edge.
>
> I still haven't heard any good argument for it, as compared to using
> wide fringes, wide margins, or by splitting windows.
>
> I do think it could make sense in one case: when you want the
> wrap-width to be larger than the window-width. But AFAICT nobody has
> asked for that yet.
I thought I've said such in the past, but in case not:
One problem with the "fringe/margin approach" is that it always exactly
tracks physical window size, which is sometimes annoying. For instance,
it would be nice to have word-wrapping that wraps to 80 or 72 columns
without having to result to multiple word-wrapping mechanisms (e.g., the
old lisp-based modes).
Also, it would be nice if one could bound the width used for wrapping so
that when a window becomes wider than a certain size, the wrapping width
would stick at some maximum -- this is because extremely wide paragraphs
can be hard to read. Similarly, when windows become narrow than some
width, it would be nice if wrapping actually respected some _minimum_
width, so that you don't end up with the text in a single narrow
vertical line (the text is probably unreadable either way, but at least
with the bounded-width version, you can get a more sensible idea of the
document structure).
[Not commenting on the technical difficulty of doing these, just saying
there are reasonable use-cases.]
-Miles
--
Bacchus, n. A convenient deity invented by the ancients as an excuse for
getting drunk.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-25 7:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-24 14:09 visual-line-mode and line wrapping Leo
2010-05-24 14:12 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-24 15:08 ` Leo
2010-05-24 15:29 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-24 16:42 ` Leo
2010-05-24 17:41 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-24 17:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-24 19:18 ` Leo
2010-05-24 19:31 ` Chong Yidong
2010-05-24 19:53 ` Leo
2010-05-24 20:33 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-24 19:58 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-24 20:27 ` Leo
2010-05-24 20:36 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-25 1:05 ` Johan Bockgård
2010-05-24 20:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-24 21:26 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-25 12:59 ` Sean Sieger
2010-05-25 5:10 ` Leo
2010-05-25 7:37 ` Miles Bader [this message]
2010-05-25 10:05 ` João Távora
2010-05-25 11:11 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-25 13:27 ` João Távora
2010-05-25 11:09 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-25 14:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-25 14:18 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-25 15:06 ` Drew Adams
2010-05-25 14:49 ` Drew Adams
2010-05-25 16:33 ` Leo
2010-05-25 8:36 ` Uday S Reddy
2010-05-25 11:48 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-05-25 13:16 ` Uday S Reddy
2010-05-25 14:40 ` Drew Adams
2010-06-05 9:21 ` Uday S Reddy
2010-06-07 20:34 ` Stefan Monnier
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