From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: background pixmaps again Date: 18 Aug 2003 19:54:05 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1061204683 11498 80.91.224.253 (18 Aug 2003 11:04:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 18 13:04:41 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19ohoX-00053R-00 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:04:41 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19ohqs-0005M7-00 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:07:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ohhy-0001ek-SV for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 06:57:54 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19ohh4-0001Vf-Gl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 06:56:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19ohfe-0001CX-3b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 06:56:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [202.32.8.214] (helo=TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19oheN-0000xd-Pa; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 06:54:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp (mailgate54.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.193]) by TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W01080315) with ESMTP id h7IAs9129001; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 19:54:09 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mailsv3.nec.co.jp (mailgate52.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.198]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id h7IAs8m09325; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 19:54:08 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from edtmg03.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.26.16.203]) by mailsv3.nec.co.jp (8.11.6p2/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id h7IAs7Q23626; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 19:54:07 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edtmg03.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.9.3p2+3.2W/3.7W_EDC_Ver.1.0) with ESMTP id TAA16967; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 19:54:07 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) by mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.12.8/8.12.8/EDcg v2.01-mc/1046780839) with ESMTP id h7IAs6NH022243; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 19:54:06 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 5C0163723; Mon, 18 Aug 2003 19:54:06 +0900 (JST) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop Original-Lines: 44 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:16005 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:16005 Hi, I've recently resurrected my `background image tiling' patch, made it work with current emacs (Kim's display engine cleanups definitely made this harder, but the code seems a bit cleaner as a result, so that's all good), fixed a bunch of bugs, made display-relative tiles work, etc. However there are certainly glitches left, and I'm wondering if anyone else is interested in working on this. If so, you can check it out from my arch archive as: Version: miles@gnu.org--gnu-2003/emacs--tiling--0 Location: sftp://fencepost.gnu.org/home/m/miles/arch/miles@gnu.org--gnu-2003 or send me email if you want a tar file. For those that don't remember, `background image tiling' basically means the ability to specify an image `tile' as the background for any face, including the default face. The image is displayed relative to an `origin,' and if this is 'display, and you use the same image as the X root window*, voila, `transparent' emacs! * Currently you must specify the image file; I intend to add a new image type that automagically tracks the actual X root window's pixmap, as defined by the X property Gnome &c use. I think this is one of the three `eye candy' features Emacs needs (well doesn't really need, but there are quite a few people that will get all hot and bothered if they're supported): (1) GTK support [done] (2) Font anti-aliasing [being worked on by Chris Gray] (3) Background image support [this patch] There seem to be a fair number of people that run emacs in an xterm to get (2) and (3)! Thanks, -Miles -- Is it true that nothing can be known? If so how do we know this? -Woody Allen