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Glenn Morris <gmorris+news@ast.cam.ac.uk> writes:
> > Why not in "The Standard Text Editor" ?
> 
> Hmm, tough call. I *think* vi edges out "The Standard Text Editor" in the
> torture stakes, but I haven't got a guinea pig to test it on.

If you give an invalid command, vi responds with annoying and arrogant
beeps, a raucous scream of oppression, whereas ed soothes you with a
humble question-mark.

Give me ed any day.

-Miles
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