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From: Richard Riley <rileyrg@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs: Problems of the Scratch Buffer
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:48:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bt1uni1v59.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: cc%jr.8078$8_6.426@newsfe09.iad

Chiron <chiron613.no.spam.@no.spam.please.gmail.com> writes:

> If Emacs works for you, use it.  If not, don't, or fix what you feel is 
> wrong with it.  It's nothing but the most highly customizable editor on 
> the planet.


And there is the core problem with so many Emacs types. Dont like it
dont use it. God forbid it could *easily* be made more accessible to new
adopters : the hard core are more than capable of re-enabling the
somewhat out of date and history rooted "defaults" such as an elisp
*scratch* as the first buffer you see or the hideous cut & paste
defaults which leave those coming from the desktops which, like it or lump it,
account for 97% of computers totally lost and bemused.

I love emacs, but this "dont like dont use it" attitude is
ridiculous. its a great piece of SW hekp to make it appeal : more users
== more maintainers == more ideas == better product. "I'm alright Jack"
attitude wont do anything to improve its usage. And usage IS important
to ensure its future. Just look at how behind it is with regards to mix
mode programming and Java in particular : and no, no one wants to know
how "mixed mode programming sucks" - its exists and is common.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-04-20 11:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-18 12:00 Emacs: Problems of the Scratch Buffer Xah Lee
2012-04-18 12:31 ` Joe Corneli
2012-04-18 16:57 ` Steinar Bang
2012-04-18 17:33   ` Ludwig, Mark
2012-04-18 18:15     ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-04-18 18:16       ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-04-19 21:08     ` Steinar Bang
     [not found]   ` <mailman.169.1334770417.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-18 21:11     ` Chiron
2012-04-18 23:56       ` Ludwig, Mark
2012-04-19 10:34         ` Tassilo Horn
2012-04-18 17:01 ` Mark Skilbeck
2012-04-18 19:33 ` Aaron Meurer
2012-04-18 20:22   ` Deniz Dogan
2012-04-19  5:55     ` Kevin Rodgers
2012-04-19  5:58   ` Kevin Rodgers
2012-04-19 20:47 ` Bug Dout
2012-04-19 21:11   ` Chiron
2012-04-19 22:41     ` Ludwig, Mark
     [not found]     ` <mailman.260.1334875302.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-20  3:27       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-04-20  3:53         ` Aaron Meurer
2012-04-20 11:08     ` Fritz Wuehler
2012-04-20 11:48     ` Richard Riley [this message]
     [not found]     ` <mailman.304.1334922534.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21  3:53       ` Chiron
2012-04-21  8:16         ` Joost Kremers
2012-04-21 12:43           ` Chiron
2012-04-21 12:47             ` Jambunathan K
2012-04-21 14:10             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]             ` <mailman.373.1335012467.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 14:42               ` Chiron
2012-04-21 14:49                 ` Joe Corneli
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.381.1335019797.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 15:04                   ` Chiron
     [not found]             ` <mailman.379.1335017454.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 14:46               ` Chiron
2012-04-21 15:34                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-21 16:15                 ` Dan Espen
2012-04-21 16:58                   ` Chiron
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.389.1335022448.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 16:32                   ` Chiron
2012-04-21 16:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.396.1335027140.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 17:09                       ` Chiron
2012-04-21 17:36                     ` Dan Espen
2012-04-21 23:01                     ` Bastien
2012-04-23 11:52             ` Joost Kremers
2012-04-24  7:40               ` rusi
2012-04-24 11:35                 ` Richard Riley
2012-04-24 13:44                   ` ken
2012-04-25 10:39                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-04-25 12:41                       ` ken
2012-04-25 21:51                       ` Jambunathan K
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.42.1335390728.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-26 17:25                         ` rusi
2012-04-26 17:48                           ` Bastien
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.619.1335350542.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-26 19:08                       ` Xah Lee
2012-04-24 14:33                 ` Dan Espen
2012-04-24 18:40                   ` PJ Weisberg
2012-04-21  8:36         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-04-21  9:48           ` Joe Corneli
     [not found]         ` <mailman.362.1334997514.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 12:35           ` Chiron
2012-04-21 13:31             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-04-21 15:01               ` Chiron
2012-04-21 14:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]             ` <mailman.378.1335017298.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 14:52               ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-04-21 15:15                 ` Jambunathan K
2012-04-21 16:03                   ` Jambunathan K
2012-04-21 14:59               ` Chiron
2012-04-21 15:35                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.390.1335022565.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 16:47                   ` Chiron
2012-04-21 17:07             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]             ` <mailman.398.1335028190.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 17:14               ` Chiron
2012-04-21 17:47                 ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.401.1335030473.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 18:03                   ` Chiron
2012-04-21 21:34             ` Jason Earl
2012-04-21 14:39         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-21 15:03           ` Chiron
2012-04-20 11:31 ` Martin
2012-04-21  3:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-21  3:25   ` Dan Espen
2012-04-21 14:38     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-21 16:08       ` Dan Espen
2012-04-21 16:50         ` Chiron
2012-04-21 17:30           ` Dan Espen
2012-04-21 22:13             ` Ludwig, Mark
2012-04-22 10:00           ` Petter Gustad
2012-04-22 10:27             ` Richard Riley
2012-06-12 19:25             ` Nikolai Alekseev
2012-06-12 19:24         ` Nikolai Alekseev

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