From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: secretary@lxny.org Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: NYC LOCAL: Sunday 17 August 2003 Three Jewels Free Software Workshop: Tenth Birthday Observance for Debian and, by popular demand, Kenny Tilton's classic hands-on introduction to Common Lisp Date: 16 Aug 2003 02:25:21 -0400 Organization: LXNY New York's Free Software Organization Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1061015521 27584 80.91.224.253 (16 Aug 2003 06:32:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 06:32:01 +0000 (UTC) Keywords: available, hackable, freely redistributable source; GPL, BSDL, ArtisticL, XSL Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 16 08:31:59 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19nubW-0001vv-00 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:31:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19nuaO-0006N9-Tt for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2003 02:30:48 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!panix!panix2.panix.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: alt.religion.emacs, comp.lang.lisp, comp.lang.scheme, gnu.emacs.help, gnu.emacs.sources Original-Followup-To: comp.lang.lisp Original-Lines: 326 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: panix2.panix.com Original-X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1061015121 4735 166.84.1.2 (16 Aug 2003 06:25:21 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 06:25:21 +0000 (UTC) Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu alt.religion.emacs:8357 comp.lang.lisp:116370 comp.lang.scheme:47837 gnu.emacs.help:115935 gnu.emacs.sources:9655 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:11853 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:11853 Sunday 17 August 2003 there will be a Free Software Workshop at Three Jewels Refuge and Free Internet Cafe 211 East 5th Street east of Third Avenue Island of the Manahattoes Subway: Eighth Street stop on the N, R, sometimes W, lines; Astor Place on the 6 line; Third Avenue on the crosstown L line; Lower East Side-Second Avenue-Houston Street on the F, V lines Note that some of these lines may not be running right this weekend. The Fest will start at 3:00 pm and run until 9:00 pm. Between 3:00 pm and 6:00 pm we will celebrate the Tenth Birthday of Debian. All Debian users and developers are especially invited to join us and eat glatt Debian foods! For more about Debian: http://www.debian.org http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/editorials/4959/1 At 7:00 pm Kenny Tilton will give the first part of a two part introduction to Common Lisp. This introduction is part of the New York City 2003 Lisp Outreach. Watch this space for announcements of Lisp events. Below my signature, and below the blurb for Install Fests and Ian Murdock's announcement of the Debian Project, please find Kenny's own detailed description of his hands-on introduction to Common Lisp on Free *n*x. This meeting is free and open to the public. There are certain rules which will be strictly observed: 1. No meat eating inside the Refuge. 2. No personal abuse. Every member of every free software org, tribe, drinking club, and family, is invited, without prejudice, without fear, and without favor. Newcomers are particularly invited. Come down and join us, even if you are just starting to learn about free software. If you bring your computer and want help installing a free OS we will help. Bring whatever CDs, DVDs, tapes, wax cylinders, quipus, memorable stanzas, black cubes, etc. of your favorite operating systems and software. See below about management of stuff you bring with you. Please read the appended standard blurb about Install Fests before you come down, if you hope to get stuff installed. Note that this Workshop does not include a full Install Fest, but we will not refuse anyone who wants help installing. Jonas Arnaldo and Kevin Mark and Jay Sulzberger will be available to answer any questions we may. Kenny Tilton may or may not answer any question; G* willing, he will show you Lisp. In the next few weeks we will have these meetings: 1. Second part of Introduction to Common Lisp: Lisp and RoboCup, http://www.lispnyc.org 2. Introduction to network security, special emphasis on time series analysis and key management 3. How to buy parts and assemble a computer well suited to run a Free *n*x We thank the Three Jewels, LXNY, and GNUbies for their generous help in making this Fest possible, and we thank the Three Jewels for hosting this Workshop, and Sunday Workshops to come, Sundays of Free Software in New York City. Jay Sulzberger Corresponding Secretary LXNY LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization. http://www.lxny.org
Here is general information about Install Fests: Hardware: Bring the boxes on which you wish to run a Free OS. Software: Bring whatever distribution CDs, boot and rescue disks, boot managers, tiny distributions, manuals, and anything else you want. Important: Everything done to/with any computer at any Install Fest, and in particular, at this Install Fest, is done at the specific request of the owner of the computer. As with all human endeavor, there is some risk of catastrophe. Back up all your data, before coming to the Fest! In addition, make a list of all hardware and media you bring to the Fest, and check that you have all your hardware and media when you leave the Fest. Useful reading: http://www.netcom.com/~casandra/mirror-of-luny-site/installfest/guidelines.html http://linuxmafia.com/bale/linuxprep.html http://www.luv.asn.au/if/preparation.php3 The LDP hardware HOW-TO: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/index.html Linux pre-install checklist: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Pre-Installation-Checklist/index.html Linux post-install mini-checklist: http://algolog.tripod.com/postlnx.htm http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Post-Installation-Checklist/index.html http://www.lxny.org http://www.gnubies.org http://www.nylug.org http://www.sixgirls.org http://www.fsf.org http://www.debian.org http://www.multicians.org http://www.gnu.org/projects/dotgnu http://tinfoilhat.cultists.net http://www.nsa.gov/selinux http://www.linux.org http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd http://www.squeak.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.netbsd.org http://www.openbsd.org http://www2.ics.hawaii.edu/~esb/prof/proj/hello http://www.daemonnews.org http://slashdot.org http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems http://www2.tunes.org/Review/OSes.html
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development From: imurdock@shell.portal.com (Ian A Murdock) Subject: New release under development; suggestions requested Message-ID: Sender: news@unix.portal.com Nntp-Posting-Host: jobe.unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 13:05:37 GMT Lines: 86 Fellow Linuxers, This is just to announce the imminent completion of a brand-new Linux release, which I'm calling the Debian Linux Release. This is a release that I have put together basically from scratch; in other words, I didn't simply make some changes to SLS and call it a new release. I was inspired to put together this release after running SLS and generally being dissatisfied with much of it, and after much altering of SLS I decided that it would be easier to start from scratch. The base system is now virtually complete (though I'm still looking around to make sure that I grabbed the most recent sources for everything), and I'd like to get some feedback before I add the "fancy" stuff. Please note that this release is not yet completed and may not be for several more weeks; however, I thought I'd post now to perhaps draw a few people out of the woodwork. Specifically, I'm looking for: 1) someone who will eventually be willing to allow me to upload the release to their anonymous ftp-site. Please contact me. Be warned that it will be rather large :) 2) comments, suggestions, advice, etc. from the Linux community. This is your chance to suggest specific packages, series, or anything you'd like to see part of the final release. Don't assume that because a package is in SLS that it will necessarily be included in the Debian release! Things like ls and cat are a given, but if there's anything that's in SLS that you couldn't live without please let me know! I'd also like suggestions for specific features for the release. For example, a friend of mine here suggested that undesired packages should be selected BEFORE the installation procedure begins so the installer doesn't have to babysit the installation. Suggestions along that line are also welcomed. What will make this release better than SLS? This: 1) Debian will be sleeker and slimmer. No more multiple binaries and manpages. 2) Debian will contain the most up-to-date of everything. The system will be easy to keep up-to-date with a 'upgrading' script in the base system which will allow complete integration of upgrade packages. 3) Debian will contain a installation procedure that doesn't need to be babysat; simply install the basedisk, copy the distribution disks to the harddrive, answer some question about what packages you want or don't want installed, and let the machine install the release while you do more interesting things. 4) Debian will contain a system setup procedure that will attempt to setup and configure everything from fstab to Xconfig. 5) Debian will contain a menu system that WORKS... menu-driven package installation and upgrading utility, menu-driven system setup, menu-driven help system, and menu-driven system administration. 6) Debian will make Linux easier for users who don't have access to the Internet. Currently, users are stuck with whatever comes with SLS. Non-Internet users will have the option of receiving periodic upgrade packages to apply to their system. They will also have the option of selecting from a huge library of additional packages that will not be included in the base system. This library will contain packages like the S3 X-server, nethack and Seyon; basically packages that you and I can ftp but non-netters cannot access. 7) Debian will be extensively documented (more than just a few READMEs). 8) As I put together Debian, I am keeping a meticulous record of where I got everything. This will allow the end-user to not only know where to get the source, but whether or not the most recent version is a part of Debian. This record will help to keep the Debian release as up-to-date as possible. 9) Lots more, but I'll detail later... Anyway, I'll provide more specifics in a week or so after I receive enough replies. Please, all replies by mail. I'll post a followup. If you wish to discuss this in the newsgroup, please don't turn it into a flamewar. :) Until later, Ian -- Ian Murdock Internet: imurdock@shell.portal.com The Linux Warehouse Please mail me for more information on the status of the Debian Linux Release.
Message-ID: <3F3BA331.50602@nyc.rr.com> From: Kenny Tilton Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: ANNC; kennyspeak (on Lisp & RoboCup) this Sun (Aug 17), East Village, NYC Lines: 57 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:53:38 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 10:53:38 EDT A couple of weeks ago I dropped by a weekly gathering of Free softwarians down in the east Village of NYC and Jay kindly shoved a keyboard into my mitts and said "show them Lisp". I somehow ended up talking about, on the one hand, using declarations to get lean-mean compilation, and on the other, about the glory of macros. That range in abstraction coinciding neatly with the range of my skill at each. This Sunday, August 17th at 7PM marks my triumphant return (read "chance for atonement") to that same occasional home of the Free (deets below), armed this time with reading glasses and at least a few hours experience on the cmucl platform under my belt. Possibly even some working RoboCup code, the delightful soccer simulation which will be fought out at ILC2003: http://www.international-lisp-conference.org/ This second "Over the Shoulder" Talk will continue my answer to the fat-pitch question asked last time, viz., Why Lisp? The focus will be the interactive quality of Lisp development, and thus will be getting down and dirty with things like Lisp-aware editors (Emacs or Hemlock) and the cmucl debugger (with the instructor in accordance with tradition just one step ahead of the audience). The context will be live work on my MIT-licensed Lisp RoboCells platform for aspiring virtual footballers, which (if the r/c platform happens to be working at that time) we will also have great fun programming. (turned loose in the server environment for autonomous play, the players tend to do the darndest things.) If my r/c platform is not behaving, we /really/ focus on the debugger and editor and the nature of interactive development. Along the way expect to hear a lot also about macros, closures, introspection, CLOS, and (duh) Cells (yes, Virginia, there is a silver bullet). And anything else about which observers want to ask. See ya there. (here:) The Three Jewels is at 211 East 5th Street east of Third Avenue on the Island of the Manahattoes subway stops: Eighth Street on the N, R, and sometimes W, lines, and Astor Place on the 6 line -- kenny tilton clinisys, inc http://www.tilton-technology.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------- "Career highlights? I had two. I got an intentional walk from Sandy Koufax and I got out of a rundown against the Mets." -- Bob Uecker