From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Fernando C.V." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs for new users Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:27:22 +0100 Message-ID: References: <912155b0911230837i48326730m82e0d54d4004be59@mail.gmail.com> <485b0c380911230905t6513e718w1dd804e18003228@mail.gmail.com> <6E092AF13796494BADEBCE2C5C0361CE@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: ferkiwi+a@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259188440 14631 80.91.229.12 (25 Nov 2009 22:34:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:34:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: per@starback.se, Lennart Borgman , rms@gnu.org, spedrosa@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 25 23:33:53 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NDQQq-0001eC-Pm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:33:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36116 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDQQq-0004CY-Al for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:33:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDQL0-0006n6-T5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:27:50 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDQKw-0006i6-8l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:27:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34080 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDQKw-0006hn-2X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:27:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f224.google.com ([209.85.219.224]:42034) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NDQKu-0008VK-Ly; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:27:44 -0500 Original-Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so212410ewy.26 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:27:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=1zwlTMz/JkCdb0iChUV2J5XeoDo2VoJ0KB8FOkg4XCs=; b=QLMCGfieMaSpGPHlAZawYKGGkOjP/yvL1ywPl9Onu+LeH7zMQhCDJeE95wRh/v6bHh pXHDRKnwLKGTfSRqO1Y8+RMfch1Xd0oItCDLLva2m4W8JII81KLsksqkNoW8pjIL3OPc sIzvy+kURyJ/lf6Fbg92hlXXlrDIBc+AO3v4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; b=e7XxvDFwmKLdHFiZF0faTeJ8fgscvEv0kBAGXH71BM+IQ6xj20+oForZxyjb9YZNLV D7ZRDHHa5pUQh1/zjt5rJcrj+6wcAN0RwMabgW/PkljS4h/chIOuvl5sZyIh3r2XJsB1 I1WbZDN+PLIaT0zpE4UWXk4IBRwSw8a9F/bYk= Original-Received: by 10.213.8.28 with SMTP id f28mr1972852ebf.38.1259188063211; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:27:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117783 Archived-At: > We could disable the keyboard and the mouse, and teach the Zen way. > > We could sell hair shirts and nail beds at www.gnu.org, to help new users get in > the groove. I didn't mean to suggest it enabled by default, just as an optional mode to help the people who want to unlearn the use of the arrow keys (I read some posts in reddit about this and some people showed some lisp for disabling the arrow keys). Anyway, it was just a suggestion.