From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Builder, a build system integration for Emacs Date: Thu, 25 May 2023 08:44:41 +0000 Message-ID: References: <3f68f4bc-d426-0bcc-1329-674c12b29386@mailo.com> <76e12f7c-335f-476b-ffb3-fd8e8e4ab5d0@mailo.com> <87pm6rx4ea.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wn0ytefw.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4819"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 25 10:45:37 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q26bJ-00016B-Gg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 25 May 2023 10:45:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q26aV-0002CV-QB; Thu, 25 May 2023 04:44:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q26aU-0002CM-8Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2023 04:44:46 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q26aS-0002xY-5Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2023 04:44:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1685004282; bh=Ylh8g2F+CZQJA37h4gAINcaC5tHqj/ifeuZ8NdT0Q2E=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=hciZe9/kMHXBPv9rjhP2E/k3sVF028GBtEJyyHy3KooZuo3NRjxPjC4bdUqcws1kq X4Lh9euumVXWMVi2PmfzAAXt92W/rRlaSmuYWFm5OYNT8A8/tAVlF1kNXrDjzZtXf0 5LEahsf+LikVeyzJJNpegjWWDRRx0/9BUdj4HCcJlMsOMPTtrmTuM/psXQCqV8J22L /pHUut2qEU8AY0XOZseboNdcWjfjKSI7eTjmwuQKqHK3uHrC1okC07uapvJIoSwNnK 8w7h0jA+IJsPjB2SkaxK2ZFmIy0oanMpcVJMWMR1VNEsv3sT2IFuWlkGp53M1gOP8v a2B48Ex/AaD/g== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306320 Archived-At: >> You are spreading FUD [...] > > Convenience, as FUD is in the eye of the beholder. We know what we are > talking about, so let everyone decide for herself. > You conveniently elide the largest part of my post, in which I explained why what you wrote, namely that building a Rust program "downloads half of the Internet while building and makes your life miserable if you want to avoid that", is plain wrong. This is not something that is "in the eye of the beholder".