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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257542 Archived-At: > > Only that "report Emacs bug" does not sound as free form feedback of > > any kind. I know it is, but it does not sound as enhancement > > request. It takes time for person to realize that. >=20 > That is a good point. Do people have concrete suggestions for > how to make it clearer how to request changes etc? There have been concrete suggestions for this. For instance: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-10/msg00552.html The suggestions there include: 1. Alias `report-emacs-bug' to a name that suggests sending feedback in general, not just reporting a bug. 2. Change the description of that command, to reflect the fact that it is for _both_ sending general feedback and reporting bugs. And change the descriptions in manuals accordingly. 3. Changing the Help menu item for reporting a but, so it suggests either reporting a bug or sending general feedback.