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From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, JD Smith <jdtsmith@gmail.com>
Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Moving packages out of core to ELPA
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 14:19:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bcccbf29-58b4-4a45-a775-0a49f8d2f8f7@gutov.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86msrys0qj.fsf@gnu.org>

On 18/02/2024 09:14, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>>>    It deserves support in Emacs.  Just not, IMO, in core.
>>> Why not?  Why does_anything_, to speak nothing of a package already in
>>> core, not "deserve" support in core, while deserving support in ELPA?
>> Because in ELPA, users must proactively opt-in to the use of the package.  For such users — those who have actively sought it out — in stark contrast to the vast majority of Emacs users, the benefits dramatically outweigh the costs.
> The costs are minuscule, so it isn't worth considering them in such
> cases.

Those who say that the costs of maintenance is tiny, seem to have missed 
the simple statement that the built-in version has diverged from its 
upstream 7 years ago. The maintenance is clearly not being done.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-18 12:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-17 14:40 Moving packages out of core to ELPA JD Smith
2024-02-17 15:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-17 16:22   ` JD Smith
2024-02-17 16:51     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-17 17:08       ` JD Smith
2024-02-17 17:29         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-17 18:52           ` JD Smith
2024-02-17 19:20             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-17 20:56               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-02-17 21:16               ` JD Smith
2024-02-18  6:28                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-18 12:57                   ` JD Smith
2024-02-18 13:46                     ` Po Lu
2024-02-18 14:03                       ` JD Smith
2024-02-18 14:08                         ` Po Lu
2024-02-18 14:17                           ` JD Smith
2024-02-18 14:17                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-18 14:19                           ` JD Smith
2024-02-18 14:22                         ` Po Lu
2024-02-17 17:42         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-02-17 18:21           ` JD Smith
2024-02-17 18:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-17 19:01               ` JD Smith
2024-02-17 20:50               ` Drew Adams
2024-02-18  1:55         ` Po Lu
2024-02-18  2:27           ` JD Smith
2024-02-18  3:47             ` Po Lu
2024-02-18  1:42 ` Po Lu
2024-02-18  2:14   ` JD Smith
2024-02-18  3:39     ` Po Lu
2024-02-18  7:25       ` Po Lu
2024-02-18 12:39       ` JD Smith
2024-02-18 13:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-18 13:15         ` Po Lu
2024-02-18  7:14     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-18 12:19       ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2024-02-18 13:06         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-18 13:27           ` JD Smith
2024-02-18 13:06         ` Po Lu
2024-02-18 13:13           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-18 13:51             ` Po Lu
2024-02-18 14:19               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-18 14:26                 ` Po Lu
2024-02-18 14:38                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-19 18:09           ` Stefan Kangas

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