From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "Clément Pit-Claudel" <cpitclaudel@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Should mode commands be idempotent?
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 10:26:48 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bcc96080-f2bd-422a-a574-ce00e5d66c3c@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55da155a-03b1-d3ed-4036-12e5a60fa26c@gmail.com>
> > Has someone actually reported a problem that s?he ran into by
> > encountering an actual mode function that was not idempotent?
>
> I think I mentioned visual-line-mode; the fact that it's not
> idempotent is a concrete (though minor) problem for me. I enable
> it in a hook, and a major mode that I use enables it too. Due to
> the way visual-line-mode works, disabling it after this doesn't
> restore my original settings.
`visual-line-mode' is distributed with Emacs. It sounds like
what you report about it is a bug.
Or is `visual-line-mode' intentionally doing what it does, to
have some state be different for different times it is turned
on? If not - if its non-idempotence is just an unintentional
behavior (a mistake), then it is just a bug that needs to be fixed.
That Emacs chooses to have its distributed modes be idempotent
is one thing. That some 3rd-party code might also mistakenly
(unintentionally) prove to be non-idempotent is another, but
similar thing. Such cases represent things to fix.
That is different from establishing a convention that
modes should never, intentionally or unintentionally,
be non-idempotent.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-09-24 17:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-19 19:58 Should mode commands be idempotent? Philipp Stephani
2017-09-19 22:10 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-09-19 22:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-20 7:24 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-09-20 14:52 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-20 22:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-20 23:05 ` Drew Adams
2017-10-08 15:09 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-09-20 22:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-23 8:16 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-09-23 14:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-23 20:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-19 22:58 ` Drew Adams
2017-09-20 3:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-20 17:52 ` Drew Adams
2017-09-21 1:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-21 5:22 ` Drew Adams
2017-09-21 18:28 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <<9f11a3c6-b113-4bf6-9dab-f894b2ad77b5@default>
[not found] ` <<E1dv6D1-0006Jr-Fl@fencepost.gnu.org>
2017-09-22 15:54 ` Drew Adams
2017-09-23 0:39 ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-23 8:05 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-09-24 17:26 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2017-09-25 7:03 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-09-25 13:57 ` Drew Adams
2017-09-26 0:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-26 3:30 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-26 17:55 ` Drew Adams
2017-09-26 18:01 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-26 18:50 ` Drew Adams
2017-09-26 18:54 ` John Wiegley
2017-10-08 15:28 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-10-08 19:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-10-10 2:10 ` John Wiegley
2017-12-21 20:49 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-12-22 2:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-10-10 23:15 ` Herring, Davis
[not found] ` <<E1dvYUB-0007na-Mx@fencepost.gnu.org>
2017-09-24 17:26 ` Drew Adams
2017-09-25 22:06 ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-19 23:50 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-20 3:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-20 13:01 ` Richard Stallman
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