From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jude DaShiell Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: rcd-box.el for box drawings and tables Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2022 22:34:00 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87r0yi4qly.fsf@disroot.org> <4c6396a5-24c8-37c3-ef9e-768dc99c38e8@panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="406"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Heime , Akib Azmain Turja , Christopher Dimech , Help Gnu Emacs To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 09 04:34:37 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1osbrJ-000AUr-Gs for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 04:34:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1osbqr-0003ky-U5; Tue, 08 Nov 2022 22:34:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1osbqp-0003fc-CI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2022 22:34:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mailbackend.panix.com ([166.84.1.89]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1osbqk-0005Vp-Gn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2022 22:34:07 -0500 Original-Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4N6Vtw3Gfjz3ln9; Tue, 8 Nov 2022 22:34:00 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=panix.com; s=panix; t=1667964840; bh=oh8XbWSqc3KSYLJvCerzXr5jJXjmvAzE9wFQbSQCQQA=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=EqAK/+2BYldm1auSOg0HjIWUStvJZVSMMjkM2/zPeVvLyEvT3LK0VpCXj64NPSciy wfavs9KT1G97BcILPc4ExFEGbfvBOPZQyPWAFS6XaMo0HL4G+PdNHfjTTI2bRl/rkm 7iMssUD3IIHALxAu6guZQXJDu6UttfCNOvVB6dd4= Original-Received: by panix1.panix.com (Postfix, from userid 20712) id 4N6Vtw2jL2zcbc; Tue, 8 Nov 2022 22:34:00 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by panix1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4N6Vtw2FvCzcbP; Tue, 8 Nov 2022 22:34:00 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=166.84.1.89; envelope-from=jdashiel@panix.com; helo=mailbackend.panix.com X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:140855 Archived-At: Could it be those characters got converted to ? so screen reader users would be able to recognize a table or box drawing rather than show nothing except text? Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Tue, 8 Nov 2022, Jean Louis wrote: > * Jude DaShiell [2022-11-08 18:42]: > > I examined the first table and the border character in all cases was > > spoken as a ? in the screen reader I use. Easy enough to understand. > > Question mark, question mark, question mark, question mark, question > mark, question mark. > > I can imagine. > > But how I see that, your system did not recognize those Unicode > characters. It should skip such characters. > > Screen readers are not perfect. > >