From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rustom Mody Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs history, and "Is Emacs difficult to learn?" Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 10:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <87y58pplcp.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87fvuwgsv0.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <075751cf-97a3-4d01-8fb1-4ffbc0180f3f@googlegroups.com> <878v0oxfdw.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87a9l4rs76.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <39e6407d-c4fd-4dc1-b47f-a1ba4119c7cb@googlegroups.com> <87iozqzjjq.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <871u6dpjar.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <14bebcfe-2311-4bb3-8154-4cc803962c71@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1375379719 29171 80.91.229.3 (1 Aug 2013 17:55:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 17:55:19 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 01 19:55:22 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V4x5r-0007dg-9n for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 19:55:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53588 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4x5r-0002Ed-0X for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 13:55:19 -0400 X-Received: by 10.224.103.68 with SMTP id j4mr5129374qao.8.1375379552188; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 10:52:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.108.47 with SMTP id hh15mr215060igb.12.1375379552111; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 10:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!fx3no445918qab.0!news-out.google.com!he10ni0qab.0!nntp.google.com!fx3no445917qab.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=59.95.0.161; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.95.0.161 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 17:52:32 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:200371 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:92638 Archived-At: On Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:03:28 PM UTC+5:30, Barry Margolin wrote: > For instance, by removing features related to pointers, you can get a > language that makes buffer overflows very unlikely. Nice example! I maintain two FP-related lists: a. A 'lost booty' of features list http://blog.languager.org/2012/10/functional-programming-lost-booty.html b. FP invades the mainstream list http://blog.languager.org/2013/06/functional-programming-invades.html If there are more examples to be added (as you will see majority come from lisp) please let me know! > While it may not make it "more powerful", it may make it more likely to > produce correct programs. Well... Its true as a fact but not so good as an attitude. In my experience people get driven away by even a faint whiff of (what Hughes calls) monkishness. How to kid the kids into liking spinach is always a challenge for Momma!