From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>,
Noam Postavsky <npostavs@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: 29478@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#29478: 26.0.90; `C-h k' followed by mouse clicks no longer shows down event
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:33:00 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bbcb1d00-a728-4b5e-b65f-bd2b168c4a51@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171128221036.GC14868@ACM>
> > > The down mouse-button event is no longer listed along with the up
> > > event when you use `C-h k' with a click event. Dunno whether this
> was
> > > by design or is an oversight.
>
> I think if you press and hold the mouse button for (default) half a
> second, when you finally release it, C-h k will report the down mouse
> event. At least this is how GPM behaves for me on a Linux tty.
Ah yes, thanks. I see that now on MS Windows too.
> This seems to make sense, because anything bound to a down mouse
> event is going to be something like a drag event, where the mouse
> button is held for an extended period of time.
Sorry, no, I don't buy that. I mean it's probably true that
most such bindings involve dragging. But (1) a user who wants
to check what `mouse-N' does won't necessarily use it the same
way when checking with `C-h k' as when using it for its real
purpose. And (2) the problem with this is that it is not
easily discoverable.
I've used Emacs for quite a while. OK, I expected both up and
down to be documented. But even I would likely never have
thought to hold the button pressed for a long time before
releasing, just to see what `C-h k' had to tell me.
If there is no other solution, then I suppose we could live
with this. But in that case it should be called out in NEWS,
I think. And if there is a possibility of restoring the
longstanding behavior then I think we should first try for that.
> > Looks like oversight. Possibly related to Bug#29272. The following
> > seems to fix it for me, but I'm having trouble convincing myself that
> > it's the right thing...
>
> > Alan, I believe you've been working on this code recently, any
> thoughts?
>
> That I'm redoing some of the underlying C code after a suboptimal patch
> some days ago, and this seems to have some effect on the mouse events
> reported for C-h c and C-h k.
>
> Eli has already reported that the proposed negation of that condition
> would break the patch and lead to annoying infinite loops with mouse
> events.
>
> I think this code still may have some way to go before reaching its
> final state.
Thanks for still taking a look and trying to work this out.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-29 4:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-27 23:21 bug#29478: 26.0.90; `C-h k' followed by mouse clicks no longer shows down event Drew Adams
2017-11-28 1:50 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-11-28 17:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-28 22:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-11-29 0:44 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-11-29 3:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-29 4:33 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2017-12-01 8:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-09 17:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-23 14:28 ` bug#29478: [Patch 2]: " Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-23 14:48 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-12-24 8:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
[not found] ` <<20171128221036.GC14868@ACM>
[not found] ` <<bbcb1d00-a728-4b5e-b65f-bd2b168c4a51@default>
[not found] ` <<83o9ni3l3i.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-12-01 15:35 ` Drew Adams
2017-12-01 16:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-09 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-09 17:23 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-22 22:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-23 9:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-23 11:17 ` bug#29478: [Patch] " Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-23 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-23 16:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-23 21:04 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-24 4:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-24 5:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-24 6:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-24 11:48 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-24 15:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-30 10:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-03 3:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-06 17:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-07 15:31 ` bug#29478: [SUSPECTED SPAM] " Stefan Monnier
2018-01-07 17:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-07 18:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-26 22:00 ` bug#29478: " Stefan Monnier
2018-01-26 22:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-27 8:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-28 16:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-28 17:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-29 21:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-30 3:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-30 14:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-30 15:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-30 16:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-27 7:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-30 10:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-30 11:32 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-30 12:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-23 16:19 ` bug#29478: " Stefan Monnier
2020-08-26 13:43 ` bug#29478: 26.0.90; " Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-26 17:12 ` Drew Adams
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