From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Barry Margolin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: print out all members of a list, v.1.0 Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:34:44 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <4D6BBD34.6050407@mousecar.com> <4D6BD989.9010102@mousecar.com> <87r5apwxad.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <878vwwwp8d.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1299206432 11674 80.91.229.12 (4 Mar 2011 02:40:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 02:40:32 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 04 03:40:28 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PvKwN-0001V1-Rf for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Mar 2011 03:40:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40835 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PvKwN-0006wY-DX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:40:27 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news-transit.tcx.org.uk!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 46 Injection-Info: barmar.motzarella.org; posting-host="+bxBiZT/p0ZLLuDb5H+JCw"; logging-data="9200"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18AAs7v0z6Q6FSgFDa/fWc2" User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b3 (Intel Mac OS X) Cancel-Lock: sha1:CKon5plGDHYfgEYEgrkApZI2ByM= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:185607 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:79761 Archived-At: In article <878vwwwp8d.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com>, "Pascal J. Bourguignon" wrote: > Barry Margolin writes: > > > In article <87r5apwxad.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com>, > > "Pascal J. Bourguignon" wrote: > > > >> Barry Margolin writes: > >> > >> > In article > >> > , > >> > rusi wrote: > >> > > >> >> yes it is. emacs lisp became obsolete when scheme and common lisp came > >> >> out -- which is about 30 years ago. > >> > > >> > How is that possible, since Emacs Lisp came out AFTER Scheme and Common > >> > Lisp? CLtL was published in 1984, the same year Stallman started > >> > writing GNU Emacs? And Scheme is older, since CL took a number of ideas > >> > from it (most notably lexical scoping). > >> > >> At the same time as CL. > >> The CL standard was completed in 1994. 1984 only marks the beginning > >> of the standardization effort. > > > > So? CL predates the standardization effort. 1984 marks the END of > > several years of work that produced the book "Common Lisp: the Language". > > Well, I understand reticence of RMS to use a language that's not even > standardized yet. Of course, I shall then wonder why he had to design > his own non-standardized language. Emacs Lisp is mostly a reimplementation of MockLisp, the dialect that was used in Gosling Emacs, which was the original inspiration for GNU Emacs. It's also very much like MACLISP, the dialect that RMS had been using for over a decade. So he didn't design his own language, he was basically sticking with what he knew and liked. -- Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***