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From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 10:43:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <barmar-0ABAEB.10430318062014@news.eternal-september.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.3879.1403089222.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

In article <mailman.3879.1403089222.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
 Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas@gmail.com> wrote:

> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> 
> >>>> Emacs Lisp is a great Lisp dialect, but I miss `find`, `find-if`,
> >>>> `remove-if`, etc. iteration functions a lot. Sure, I can require cl-lib
> >>>> or use dash, but I'm wondering why these functions are not part of the
> >>>> base language?
> >>> Not sure what you mean.  Most languages I know provide list operations
> >>> via libraries.  Why should Elisp be different?
> >> What I mean is that Elisp do not have `remove-if`
> >
> > Of course it does, tho it calls it `cl-remove-if'.
> 
> Yes, but what I meant was that there is no filtering function in Elisp
> itself (cl-remove-if is part of cl-lib).
> 
> But Barry's answer explains it. Now I'm wondering if it would make sense
> to have such functions in Elisp itself?

Why? Just to avoid having to do (require 'cl)? Or are you suggesting 
that they should be rewritten in C and made primitive subrs?

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-18 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-17 17:13 Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp? Nicolas Petton
2014-06-17 17:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-17 18:36   ` Nicolas Petton
2014-06-17 18:56     ` Doug Lewan
2014-06-17 19:06       ` Nicolas Petton
2014-06-17 19:55         ` Doug Lewan
2014-06-17 22:16     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-18 11:00       ` Nicolas Petton
     [not found]       ` <mailman.3879.1403089222.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-18 14:36         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-18 14:43         ` Barry Margolin [this message]
2014-06-18 15:43           ` Damien Cassou
2014-06-18 16:31             ` Phillip Lord
     [not found]           ` <mailman.3896.1403106263.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-24 13:51             ` Christoph Wedler
2014-06-24 16:24               ` Barry Margolin
2014-06-25  3:22                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25  4:08                   ` Leo Liu
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.4252.1403669342.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-25 13:46                     ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.4251.1403666567.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-25 10:24                   ` Christoph Wedler
2014-06-25 13:35                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25 14:09                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25 15:37                     ` Barry Margolin
2014-06-25 23:44                       ` Robert Thorpe
2014-06-18 14:43         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
     [not found] ` <mailman.3837.1403026153.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-20  0:20   ` WJ
2014-06-20 13:45     ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] <mailman.3836.1403025251.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-17 21:42 ` Barry Margolin
     [not found] <mailman.4322.1403739913.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-26  0:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-26  5:27 ` Barry Margolin

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