* emacs 21.3 wants "libXaw3d.so.5"; got Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz; NOW WHAT?
@ 2003-05-19 6:10 David Combs
2003-05-19 8:09 ` Akop Pogosian
2003-05-22 11:02 ` Kai Großjohann
0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: David Combs @ 2003-05-19 6:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
[] emacs: 21.3: 21.3 wants "libXaw3d.so.5"; got Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz; NOW WHAT?
(four questions)
Here's the original message I got while "making" emacs-21.2:
ld.so.1: ./temacs: fatal: libXaw3d.so.5: open failed: No such file or directory
So, I went to google and found "Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz", untarred it, which
created a directory "xc",
which contains only dir "lib"
which contains only dir Xaw3d,
which contains these files (no dirs):
/david3/from_netcom-dir1/clibraries-stuff/xc/lib/Xaw3d:
used 2846 available files
drwxr-xr-x 2 dkc other 2560 May 19 01:06 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 dkc other 512 May 19 01:06 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4762 Oct 15 1996 AllWidgets.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 1561 Oct 15 1996 AllWidgets.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 20925 Oct 15 1996 AsciiSink.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3458 Oct 15 1996 AsciiSink.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4133 Oct 15 1996 AsciiSinkP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 37681 May 14 1998 AsciiSrc.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4524 Oct 15 1996 AsciiSrc.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 5697 Oct 15 1996 AsciiSrcP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 10840 Oct 15 1996 AsciiText.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 5514 Oct 15 1996 AsciiText.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 5254 Oct 15 1996 AsciiTextP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 20108 Oct 15 1996 Box.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3644 Oct 15 1996 Box.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3782 Oct 15 1996 BoxP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 1727 Oct 15 1996 Cardinals.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 18321 Oct 15 1996 Command.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 5065 Oct 15 1996 Command.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4578 Oct 15 1996 CommandP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 14917 Oct 15 1996 Dialog.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3925 Oct 15 1996 Dialog.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3728 Oct 15 1996 DialogP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 26335 May 14 1998 Form.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 5644 Oct 15 1996 Form.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 5241 Oct 15 1996 FormP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 5776 Oct 15 1996 Grip.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4119 Oct 15 1996 Grip.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3712 Oct 15 1996 GripP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4060 Oct 15 1996 Imakefile
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 23979 Oct 15 1996 Label.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4765 Oct 15 1996 Label.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4329 Oct 15 1996 LabelP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 27492 Oct 15 1996 Layout.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3272 Oct 15 1996 Layout.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 5799 Oct 15 1996 LayoutP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 35596 Oct 15 1996 List.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 7701 Oct 15 1996 List.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4019 Oct 15 1996 ListP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3163 Oct 15 1996 MenuButtoP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 6926 Oct 15 1996 MenuButton.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3308 Oct 15 1996 MenuButton.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 24158 Oct 15 1996 MultiSink.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4776 Oct 15 1996 MultiSink.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 5637 Oct 15 1996 MultiSinkP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 42505 May 14 1998 MultiSrc.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4686 Oct 15 1996 MultiSrc.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 7167 Oct 15 1996 MultiSrcP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 56091 Oct 15 1996 Paned.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 8892 Oct 15 1996 Paned.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 7771 Oct 15 1996 PanedP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 30133 Oct 15 1996 Panner.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3996 Oct 15 1996 Panner.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4273 Oct 15 1996 PannerP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 11511 Oct 15 1996 Porthole.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 2423 Oct 15 1996 Porthole.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 2163 Oct 15 1996 PortholeP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 8049 May 15 1998 README.XAW3D
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 9351 Oct 15 1996 Repeater.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 2822 Oct 15 1996 Repeater.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 2968 Oct 15 1996 RepeaterP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 2341 Oct 15 1996 Reports.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 38992 Oct 15 1996 Scrollbar.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 5602 Oct 15 1996 Scrollbar.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 5083 Oct 15 1996 ScrollbarP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 9974 Oct 15 1996 Simple.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3974 Oct 15 1996 Simple.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3419 Oct 15 1996 SimpleMenP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 35770 Oct 15 1996 SimpleMenu.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 5120 Oct 15 1996 SimpleMenu.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3262 Oct 15 1996 SimpleP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 7196 Oct 15 1996 Sme.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 2537 Oct 15 1996 Sme.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 22839 Oct 15 1996 SmeBSB.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3506 Oct 15 1996 SmeBSB.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3842 Oct 15 1996 SmeBSBP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 8820 Oct 15 1996 SmeLine.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 2588 Oct 15 1996 SmeLine.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3070 Oct 15 1996 SmeLineP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3248 Oct 15 1996 SmeP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 19192 Oct 15 1996 SmeThreeD.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3415 Oct 15 1996 SmeThreeD.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 2631 Oct 15 1996 SmeThreeDP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4174 Oct 15 1996 StripCharP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 17907 Oct 15 1996 StripChart.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4755 Oct 15 1996 StripChart.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3315 Oct 15 1996 Template.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 2520 Oct 15 1996 Template.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 2054 Oct 15 1996 TemplateP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 101230 May 14 1998 Text.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 8499 Oct 15 1996 Text.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 57070 Oct 15 1996 TextAction.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 9980 Oct 15 1996 TextP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 43967 Oct 15 1996 TextPop.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 22274 Oct 15 1996 TextSink.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 9764 Oct 15 1996 TextSink.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 5338 Oct 15 1996 TextSinkP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 20069 May 14 1998 TextSrc.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 7840 Oct 15 1996 TextSrc.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 5638 Oct 15 1996 TextSrcP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4857 Oct 15 1996 TextTr.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 19901 Oct 15 1996 ThreeD.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3355 Oct 15 1996 ThreeD.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 2327 Oct 15 1996 ThreeDP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 17539 Oct 15 1996 Toggle.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 5547 Oct 15 1996 Toggle.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3285 Oct 15 1996 ToggleP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 29249 Oct 15 1996 Tree.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4807 Oct 15 1996 Tree.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4658 Oct 15 1996 TreeP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 14718 Oct 15 1996 Vendor.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3170 Oct 15 1996 VendorEP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 33643 Oct 15 1996 Viewport.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4284 Oct 15 1996 Viewport.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 4153 Oct 15 1996 ViewportP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 3219 Oct 15 1996 XawI18n.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 2318 Oct 15 1996 XawI18n.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 46542 Apr 21 1998 XawIm.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 6014 Apr 21 1998 XawImP.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 1966 Oct 15 1996 XawInit.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 1456 Oct 15 1996 XawInit.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 7358 Oct 15 1996 jump_funcs
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 151 Oct 15 1996 jump_ignore
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 7076 Oct 15 1996 jump_vars
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 5446 Oct 15 1996 laygram.y
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 2588 Oct 15 1996 laylex.l
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkc other 6351 Oct 15 1996 sharedlib.c
No README, no configure, no Makefile.
--- QUESTION ONE: Please, what am I supposed to do now?
--- QUESTION TWO: might there be some easier way to grab this
"libXaw3d.so.5" that it seems to want, eg off some www-site,
would there?)
---- NOTE: these two paragraphs come from the emacs 21.3 PROBLEMS file:
* When using Xaw3d scroll bars without arrows, the very first mouse
click in a scroll bar might be ignored by the scroll bar widget. This
is probably a bug in Xaw3d; when Xaw3d is compiled with arrows, the
problem disappears.
* There are known binary incompatibilities between Xaw, Xaw3d, neXtaw,
XawM and the few other derivatives of Xaw. So when you compile with
one of these, it may not work to dynamically link with another one.
For example, strange problems, such as Emacs exiting when you type
"C-x 1", were reported when Emacs compiled with Xaw3d and libXaw was
used with neXtaw at run time.
I have not a clue as to what it means, nor what I'm supposed
to do about it.
Oh, solaris-9 already comes with the widgets themselves:
53 ==/big7.1/dkc==> egrep xaw3d /dkcjunk/allunixfiles-blade-19may03.nam
/big5/david3/from_netcom-dir2/sources-stuff/README-xaw3d
/var/sadm/pkg/SFWxaw3d/install/copyright
/var/sadm/pkg/SFWxaw3d/install/depend
/var/sadm/pkg/SFWxaw3d/pkginfo
54 ==/big7.1/dkc==> pkginfo SFWxaw3d
system SFWxaw3d Xaw3d - Three-D Athena Widgets
55 ==/big7.1/dkc==>
, but not the library, apparently.
---------------------------
QUESTION THREE: Reading the PROBLEMS or README file, I
went and got all these. Do I really have to use
this stuff? Which ones are really necessary?
-rw------- 1 dkc other 284420 May 15 02:04 Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz
drwxr-xr-x 2 dkc other 3072 Mar 27 1998 jpeg-6b
-rw------- 1 dkc other 3776 May 15 02:40 jpeg.documents
-rw------- 1 dkc other 61440 May 15 02:45 jpegaltui.v6b.tar
-rw------- 1 dkc other 2293760 May 15 02:45 jpegsrc.v6b.tar
-rw------- 1 dkc other 921600 May 15 02:09 libXpm-4.7.tar
drwxr-xr-x 5 dkc other 1024 Oct 3 2002 libpng-1.2.5
-rw------- 1 dkc other 2519040 May 15 02:18 libpng-1.2.5.tar
drwxr-xr-x 2 dkc other 512 Sep 24 2001 libtiff-lzw-compression-kit-1.3
-rw------- 1 dkc other 40960 May 15 02:51 libtiff-lzw-compression-kit-1.3.tar
drwxr-xr-x 6 dkc other 1024 Feb 9 1999 libungif-4.1.0
-rw------- 1 dkc other 1208320 May 15 03:01 libungif-4.1.0.tar
drwxr-xr-x 3 dkc other 512 May 19 01:06 xc
drwxr-xr-x 7 dkc other 512 May 19 00:57 xpm-3.4g
QUESTION FOUR: (NOTE: I really couldn't care less, right now, about all
this 3D and jpeg etc stuff -- all I want is a emacs-21 that works better
than 21.2.1! Any suggestions for an easier way to get a 21.3 working?)
Thanks!
David
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread* Re: emacs 21.3 wants "libXaw3d.so.5"; got Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz; NOW WHAT?
2003-05-19 6:10 emacs 21.3 wants "libXaw3d.so.5"; got Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz; NOW WHAT? David Combs
@ 2003-05-19 8:09 ` Akop Pogosian
2003-05-19 17:54 ` David Combs
2003-05-22 11:02 ` Kai Großjohann
1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Akop Pogosian @ 2003-05-19 8:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
In comp.unix.solaris David Combs <dkcombs@panix.com> wrote:
> [] emacs: 21.3: 21.3 wants "libXaw3d.so.5"; got Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz; NOW WHAT?
> (four questions)
> Here's the original message I got while "making" emacs-21.2:
> ld.so.1: ./temacs: fatal: libXaw3d.so.5: open failed: No such file or directory
If you're compiling emacs from source (that means you should have
compiled temacs, whatever it is, from source too), supposedly your
linker should have managed to find the location of the libXaw3d
library. Otherwise, you wouldn't have gotten temacs executable file in
the first place. This means that this shared library file already
exists somewhere on your system but the run time-linker can not find
it. The proper way to fix this is to make sure that when you compile
emacs that -R<path to the library directory> flag is passed to the
linker when linking the emacs binaries. I haven't compiled emacs
recently, so I don't remember what needs to be done to make this
happen. Typically, setting the LDFLAGS='-R/something/something/lib"
environment variable works, sometimes you need to pass this ld flag as
an option to the configure script, and finally, you can edit the
generated Makefile(s) after running configure.
As for installing Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz, extract the tar archive and then
look at the files with names that might suggest that they contain
installation instructions (e.g. README, INSTALL, etc) and see what
they say. There is no standard way to compile things from source.
Tinkering with source packages is useful for learning how to build
unix software but in lots of cases I'd also settle for precompiled
packages (specially if a copy of emacs and a few other standard
package is all that you need). Solaris 8 and 9 companion CDs contain a
copy of emacs and you can also download emacs packages from sites like
www.sunfreeware.org or www.blastwave.org.
-akop
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: emacs 21.3 wants "libXaw3d.so.5"; got Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz; NOW WHAT?
2003-05-19 8:09 ` Akop Pogosian
@ 2003-05-19 17:54 ` David Combs
2003-05-19 18:17 ` Stefan Monnier
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: David Combs @ 2003-05-19 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
In article <baa3fs$1tcp$1@agate.berkeley.edu>,
Akop Pogosian <akopps+usenet@ocf.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>In comp.unix.solaris David Combs <dkcombs@panix.com> wrote:
>> [] emacs: 21.3: 21.3 wants "libXaw3d.so.5"; got Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz; NOW WHAT?
>
>> (four questions)
>
>> Here's the original message I got while "making" emacs-21.2:
>
>> ld.so.1: ./temacs: fatal: libXaw3d.so.5: open failed: No such file or directory
>
>If you're compiling emacs from source (that means you should have
>compiled temacs, whatever it is, from source too), supposedly your
>linker should have managed to find the location of the libXaw3d
>library. Otherwise, you wouldn't have gotten temacs executable file in
>the first place. This means that this shared library file already
No, I doubt it.
What's that command -- ah, "nm". I'll try that in a min,
after posting this.
("ld" man-page needs to add "nm" to its "see also"!)
>exists somewhere on your system but the run time-linker can not find
>it. The proper way to fix this is to make sure that when you compile
>emacs that -R<path to the library directory> flag is passed to the
>linker when linking the emacs binaries.
Silly question, maybe, but why not just another -L<...>
after the LDFLAGS= ?
I haven't compiled emacs
>recently, so I don't remember what needs to be done to make this
>happen. Typically, setting the LDFLAGS='-R/something/something/lib"
>environment variable works, sometimes you need to pass this ld flag as
>an option to the configure script, and finally, you can edit the
>generated Makefile(s) after running configure.
>
>As for installing Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz, extract the tar archive and then
>look at the files with names that might suggest that they contain
>installation instructions (e.g. README, INSTALL, etc) and see what
>they say.
Wonderful! Unfortunately, as shown in OP, there is NEITHER a README
nor an INSTALL, nor anything else! HELP!
There is no standard way to compile things from source.
>
>Tinkering with source packages is useful for learning how to build
>unix software but in lots of cases I'd also settle for precompiled
>packages (specially if a copy of emacs and a few other standard
>package is all that you need). Solaris 8 and 9 companion CDs contain a
>copy of emacs
Right. Unfortunately, it's 21.2.1. *Full* of bugs and
other difficulties (maybe "features"); nontheless, I
read on the emacs groups that 21.3 is a whole lot better.
and you can also download emacs packages from sites like
>www.sunfreeware.org or www.blastwave.org.
Last time I looked, was 21.2.1.
QUESTION: who keeps those sites up-to-date? Email addrs?
Thanks!
David
PS: HELP!
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread* Re: emacs 21.3 wants "libXaw3d.so.5"; got Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz; NOW WHAT?
2003-05-19 17:54 ` David Combs
@ 2003-05-19 18:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-20 6:19 ` David Combs
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2003-05-19 18:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
>> If you're compiling emacs from source (that means you should have
>> compiled temacs, whatever it is, from source too), supposedly your
>> linker should have managed to find the location of the libXaw3d
>> library. Otherwise, you wouldn't have gotten temacs executable file in
>> the first place. This means that this shared library file already
> No, I doubt it.
How about checking it instead of relying on your gut feeling ?
Where did the "libXaw3d.so.5" come from you think ?
The Emacs source only does -lXaw3d, so even if we assume that the "lib"
and the ".so" are implicit, that still doesn't explain the ".5".
> Silly question, maybe, but why not just another -L<...>
> after the LDFLAGS= ?
Because -L only provides the path to find the library at compile-time,
whereas -R provides the path to find the library at runtime. Most likely
the library libXaw3d.so.5 is already in /var/sadm/pkg/SFWxaw3d/ and you
simply need to add the corresponding directory either as a -R to the `ld'
command or to the LD_LIBRARY_PATH envvar.
> Right. Unfortunately, it's 21.2.1. *Full* of bugs and
> other difficulties (maybe "features"); nontheless, I
> read on the emacs groups that 21.3 is a whole lot better.
AFAIK, 21.3 only fixes a few bugs and I haven't read anybody rave about how
buggy 21.2 is and/or how stable 21.3 is. Could you report the bugs you see
in 21.2 ?
Stefan
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread* Re: emacs 21.3 wants "libXaw3d.so.5"; got Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz; NOW WHAT?
2003-05-19 18:17 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2003-05-20 6:19 ` David Combs
2003-05-20 6:56 ` Stefan Monnier
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: David Combs @ 2003-05-20 6:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
Is there anyone who has actually "made" a 21.3 on Solaris (9) (Sparc)?
If so, perhaps you can tell me how *you* did it?
------
Thanks for your reply!
In article <5lptmeol70.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier+gnu.emacs.help/news/@flint.cs.yale.edu> wrote:
>>> If you're compiling emacs from source (that means you should have
>>> compiled temacs, whatever it is, from source too), supposedly your
>>> linker should have managed to find the location of the libXaw3d
>>> library. Otherwise, you wouldn't have gotten temacs executable file in
>>> the first place. This means that this shared library file already
>> No, I doubt it.
>
>How about checking it instead of relying on your gut feeling ?
How?
>Where did the "libXaw3d.so.5" come from you think ?
I downloaded it -- having gotten the error message saying
it was missing, I went to google and searched for it,
found it, and downloaded it. That's where it came from.
And, here's a search through all the file-names
that existed a few days ago (before that download)
on my computer and all its disks:
(Note: I don't even program not in C but in something
totally unrelated -- so for some of the things
you ask, I have neither answer nor understanding.)
>The Emacs source only does -lXaw3d, so even if we assume that the "lib"
>and the ".so" are implicit, that still doesn't explain the ".5".
>
>> Silly question, maybe, but why not just another -L<...>
>> after the LDFLAGS= ?
>
>Because -L only provides the path to find the library at compile-time,
>whereas -R provides the path to find the library at runtime. Most likely
>the library libXaw3d.so.5 is already in /var/sadm/pkg/SFWxaw3d/ and you
>simply need to add the corresponding directory either as a -R to the `ld'
>command or to the LD_LIBRARY_PATH envvar.
>
>> Right. Unfortunately, it's 21.2.1. *Full* of bugs and
>> other difficulties (maybe "features"); nontheless, I
>> read on the emacs groups that 21.3 is a whole lot better.
>
>AFAIK, 21.3 only fixes a few bugs and I haven't read anybody rave about how
>buggy 21.2 is and/or how stable 21.3 is. Could you report the bugs you see
>in 21.2 ?
>
>
> Stefan
Here's all mention of xaw in emacs 21.3's "configure" and "Makefiles":
What does it suggest that I could do?
73 ==/david3/from_netcom-dir2/sources-stuff/emacs-21.3==>
73 ==/david3/from_netcom-dir2/sources-stuff/emacs-21.3==>
73 ==/david3/from_netcom-dir2/sources-stuff/emacs-21.3==>
73 ==/david3/from_netcom-dir2/sources-stuff/emacs-21.3==> egrep -in xaw `cat t.nam`
./configure:38: don't use Motif or Xaw3d scroll bars"
./configure:4764: echo $ac_n "checking X11 version 5 with Xaw""... $ac_c" 1>&6
./configure:4765:echo "configure:4766: checking X11 version 5 with Xaw" >&5
./configure:4766: if eval "test \"`echo '$''{'emacs_cv_x11_version_5_with_xaw'+set}'`\" = set"; then
./configure:4774:#include <X11/Xaw/Simple.h>
./configure:4781: emacs_cv_x11_version_5_with_xaw=yes
./configure:4786: emacs_cv_x11_version_5_with_xaw=no
./configure:4791: if test $emacs_cv_x11_version_5_with_xaw = yes; then
./configure:4792: echo "$ac_t""5 or newer, with Xaw; use toolkit by default" 1>&6
./configure:4795: echo "$ac_t""before 5 or no Xaw; do not use toolkit by default" 1>&6
./configure:4901:# On Irix 6.5, at least, we need XShapeQueryExtension from -lXext for Xaw3D.
./configure:5041:### Is -lXaw3d available?
./configure:5042:HAVE_XAW3D=no
./configure:5045: ac_safe=`echo "X11/Xaw3d/Scrollbar.h" | sed 'y%./+-%__p_%'`
./configure:5046:echo $ac_n "checking for X11/Xaw3d/Scrollbar.h""... $ac_c" 1>&6
./configure:5047:echo "configure:5048: checking for X11/Xaw3d/Scrollbar.h" >&5
./configure:5054:#include <X11/Xaw3d/Scrollbar.h>
./configure:5073: echo $ac_n "checking for XawScrollbarSetThumb in -lXaw3d""... $ac_c" 1>&6
./configure:5074:echo "configure:5075: checking for XawScrollbarSetThumb in -lXaw3d" >&5
./configure:5075:ac_lib_var=`echo Xaw3d'_'XawScrollbarSetThumb | sed 'y%./+-%__p_%'`
./configure:5080:LIBS="-lXaw3d $LIBS"
./configure:5087:char XawScrollbarSetThumb();
./configure:5090:XawScrollbarSetThumb()
./configure:5108: HAVE_XAW3D=yes
./configure:5117: if test "${HAVE_XAW3D}" = "yes"; then
./configure:5119:#define HAVE_XAW3D 1
./configure:5135: HAVE_XAW3D=no
./configure:5137: elif test "${HAVE_XAW3D}" = "yes"; then
./configure:9272:echo " Does Emacs use -lXaw3d? ${HAVE_XAW3D}"
./configure.in:98: don't use Motif or Xaw3d scroll bars])
./configure.in:1727: AC_MSG_CHECKING(X11 version 5 with Xaw)
./configure.in:1728: AC_CACHE_VAL(emacs_cv_x11_version_5_with_xaw,
./configure.in:1731:#include <X11/Xaw/Simple.h>],
./configure.in:1733: emacs_cv_x11_version_5_with_xaw=yes,
./configure.in:1734: emacs_cv_x11_version_5_with_xaw=no))
./configure.in:1735: if test $emacs_cv_x11_version_5_with_xaw = yes; then
./configure.in:1736: AC_MSG_RESULT([5 or newer, with Xaw; use toolkit by default])
./configure.in:1739: AC_MSG_RESULT(before 5 or no Xaw; do not use toolkit by default)
./configure.in:1777:# On Irix 6.5, at least, we need XShapeQueryExtension from -lXext for Xaw3D.
./configure.in:1804:### Is -lXaw3d available?
./configure.in:1805:HAVE_XAW3D=no
./configure.in:1808: AC_CHECK_HEADER(X11/Xaw3d/Scrollbar.h,
./configure.in:1809: AC_CHECK_LIB(Xaw3d, XawScrollbarSetThumb, HAVE_XAW3D=yes))
./configure.in:1810: if test "${HAVE_XAW3D}" = "yes"; then
./configure.in:1811: AC_DEFINE(HAVE_XAW3D)
./configure.in:1817:dnl using Motif or Xaw3d is available, and unless
./configure.in:1825: HAVE_XAW3D=no
./configure.in:1827: elif test "${HAVE_XAW3D}" = "yes"; then
./configure.in:2282:echo " Does Emacs use -lXaw3d? ${HAVE_XAW3D}"
./src/Makefile.in:324:#if HAVE_XAW3D
./src/Makefile.in:325:LIBW= -lXaw3d
./src/Makefile.in:327:LIBW= -lXaw
./src/Makefile.c:325:#if HAVE_XAW3D
./src/Makefile.c:326:LIBW= -lXaw3d
./src/Makefile.c:328:LIBW= -lXaw
./src/Makefile:73:LIBW= -lXaw3d
./src/Makefile_01:73:LIBW= -lXaw3d
./src/Makefile~:73:LIBW= -lXaw3d
./lwlib/Makefile.in:24: LUCID_OBJS = lwlib-Xlw.o xlwmenu.o lwlib-Xaw.o
./lwlib/Makefile.in:57:lwlib.o: lwlib.c lwlib.h lwlib-int.h lwlib-Xaw.h lwlib-Xlw.h
./lwlib/Makefile.in:59:lwlib-Xaw.o: lwlib-Xaw.c lwlib-Xaw.h lwlib.h lwlib-int.h
./lwlib/Makefile:25: LUCID_OBJS = lwlib-Xlw.o xlwmenu.o lwlib-Xaw.o
./lwlib/Makefile:58:lwlib.o: lwlib.c lwlib.h lwlib-int.h lwlib-Xaw.h lwlib-Xlw.h
./lwlib/Makefile:60:lwlib-Xaw.o: lwlib-Xaw.c lwlib-Xaw.h lwlib.h lwlib-int.h
74 ==/david3/from_netcom-dir2/sources-stuff/emacs-21.3==>
---- Within my computer's disks, here's *all* filenames containing "xaw":
71 ==/david3/from_netcom-dir2/sources-stuff/emacs-21.3==> egrep -i xaw /dkcjunk/allunixfiles-blade-19may03.nam
/big5/david3/from_netcom-dir1/emacs-stuff/emacs-21.1/lwlib/lwlib-Xaw.c
/big5/david3/from_netcom-dir1/emacs-stuff/emacs-21.1/lwlib/lwlib-Xaw.h
/big5/david3/from_netcom-dir1/emacs-stuff/emacs-21.1-build/lwlib/lwlib-Xaw.o
/big5/david3/from_netcom-dir1/emacs-stuff/emacs-21.2/lwlib/lwlib-Xaw.c
/big5/david3/from_netcom-dir1/emacs-stuff/emacs-21.2/lwlib/lwlib-Xaw.h
/big5/david3/from_netcom-dir2/sources-stuff/README-xaw3d
/big5/david3/from_netcom-dir2/sources-stuff/Xaw3d-0.6B.tar.Z
/big5/david3/from_netcom-dir2/sources-stuff/Xaw3d-how2install.txt
/big5/david3/from_netcom-dir2/sources-stuff/emacs-21.3/lwlib/lwlib-Xaw.c
/big5/david3/from_netcom-dir2/sources-stuff/emacs-21.3/lwlib/lwlib-Xaw.h
/big5/david3/from_netcom-dir2/sources-stuff/emacs-21.3/lwlib/lwlib-Xaw.o
/big5/david3/from_netcom-dir2/sources-stuff/emacs-21.2/lwlib/lwlib-Xaw.c
/big5/david3/from_netcom-dir2/sources-stuff/emacs-21.2/lwlib/lwlib-Xaw.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/AllWidgets.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/AsciiSink.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/AsciiSinkP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/AsciiSrc.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/AsciiSrcP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/AsciiText.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/AsciiTextP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Box.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/BoxP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Cardinals.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Command.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/CommandP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Dialog.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/DialogP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Form.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/FormP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Grip.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/GripP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Label.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/LabelP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Layout.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/LayoutP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/List.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/ListP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/MenuButtoP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/MenuButton.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/MultiSink.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/MultiSinkP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/MultiSrc.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/MultiSrcP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Paned.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/PanedP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Panner.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/PannerP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Porthole.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/PortholeP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Repeater.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/RepeaterP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Reports.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Scrollbar.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/ScrollbarP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Simple.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/SimpleMenP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/SimpleMenu.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/SimpleP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Sme.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/SmeBSB.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/SmeBSBP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/SmeLine.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/SmeLineP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/SmeP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/SmeThreeD.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/SmeThreeDP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/StripCharP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/StripChart.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Template.c
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Template.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/TemplateP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Text.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/TextP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/TextSink.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/TextSinkP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/TextSrc.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/TextSrcP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/ThreeD.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/ThreeDP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Toggle.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/ToggleP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Tree.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/TreeP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/VendorEP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/Viewport.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/ViewportP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/XawImP.h
/opt/sfw/include/X11/Xaw3d/XawInit.h
/opt/sfw/lib/libXaw3d.so.5
/opt/sfw/kde/share/apps/kappfinder/apps/Multimedia/xawtv.desktop
/opt/sfw/kde/share/apps/kdisplay/app-defaults/AAAXaw.ad
/opt/sfw/kde/share/apps/kdisplay/app-defaults/Xawtv.ad
/opt/sfw/kde/share/icons/Locolor/32x32/apps/xawtv.png
/opt/sfw/kde/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/xawtv.png
/opt6/var/dkchacks/emacs-20.5/lwlib/lwlib-Xaw.c
/opt6/var/dkchacks/emacs-20.5/lwlib/lwlib-Xaw.h
/opt6/var/dkchacks/emacs-20.5/lwlib/lwlib-Xaw.o
/opt6/myexternals/opt/gnu/emacs-19.34/lwlib/lwlib-Xaw.c
/opt6/myexternals/opt/gnu/emacs-19.34/lwlib/lwlib-Xaw.h
/opt6/myexternals/opt/gnu/emacs-19.34/lwlib/lwlib-Xaw.o
/var/sadm/pkg/SFWxaw3d/install/copyright
/var/sadm/pkg/SFWxaw3d/install/depend
/var/sadm/pkg/SFWxaw3d/pkginfo
/usr/openwin/share/man/man3X11/XAWMHints.3X11
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/AllWidgets.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/AsciiSink.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/AsciiSinkP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/AsciiSrc.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/AsciiSrcP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/AsciiText.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/AsciiTextP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Box.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/BoxP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Cardinals.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Clock.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/ClockP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Command.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/CommandP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Dialog.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/DialogP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Form.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/FormP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Grip.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/GripP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Label.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/LabelP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/List.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/ListP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Logo.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/LogoP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Mailbox.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/MailboxP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/MenuButtoP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/MenuButton.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/MultiSink.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/MultiSinkP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/MultiSrc.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/MultiSrcP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Paned.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/PanedP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Panner.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/PannerP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Porthole.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/PortholeP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Repeater.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/RepeaterP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Reports.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Scrollbar.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/ScrollbarP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Simple.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/SimpleMenP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/SimpleMenu.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/SimpleP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Sme.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/SmeP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/SmeBSB.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/SmeBSBP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/SmeLine.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/SmeLineP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/StripCharP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/StripChart.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Template.c
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Template.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/TemplateP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Text.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/TextP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/TextSink.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/TextSinkP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/TextSrc.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/TextSrcP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Toggle.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/ToggleP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Tree.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/TreeP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/VendorEP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/Viewport.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/ViewportP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/XawImP.h
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/Xaw/XawInit.h
/usr/openwin/lib/libXaw.so.4
/usr/openwin/lib/libXaw.so.5
/usr/openwin/lib/sparcv9/libXaw.so.5
/usr/openwin/lib/sparcv9/llib-lXaw.ln
/usr/openwin/lib/libp/libXaw.a
/usr/openwin/lib/libXaw.a
/usr/openwin/lib/llib-lXaw.ln
/usr/4lib/libXaw.so.4.0
72 ==/david3/from_netcom-dir2/sources-stuff/emacs-21.3==>
Does the above greps, etc, suggest anything?
AGAIN -- is there anyone who's actually BUILT an emacs-21.3?
Thanks!
David
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2003-05-20 6:19 ` David Combs
@ 2003-05-20 6:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-20 16:32 ` David Combs
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2003-05-20 6:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
>> Where did the "libXaw3d.so.5" come from you think ?
> I downloaded it -- having gotten the error message saying
> it was missing, I went to google and searched for it,
> found it, and downloaded it. That's where it came from.
You misunderstood. My question was `where does the string "libXaw3d.so.5"
come from', given the fact that Emacs does not have the ".5" part anywhere
in its code.
> And, here's a search through all the file-names
> that existed a few days ago (before that download)
> on my computer and all its disks:
[...]
> /opt/sfw/lib/libXaw3d.so.5
Is gnu.emacs.help really the best way to do a `grep' ?
Stefan
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2003-05-20 6:56 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2003-05-20 16:32 ` David Combs
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: David Combs @ 2003-05-20 16:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
In article <5lbrxynm17.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier+gnu.emacs.help/news/@flint.cs.yale.edu> wrote:
>>> Where did the "libXaw3d.so.5" come from you think ?
>
>> I downloaded it -- having gotten the error message saying
>> it was missing, I went to google and searched for it,
>> found it, and downloaded it. That's where it came from.
>
>You misunderstood. My question was `where does the string "libXaw3d.so.5"
>come from', given the fact that Emacs does not have the ".5" part anywhere
>in its code.
>
>> And, here's a search through all the file-names
>> that existed a few days ago (before that download)
>> on my computer and all its disks:
>[...]
>> /opt/sfw/lib/libXaw3d.so.5
>
>Is gnu.emacs.help really the best way to do a `grep' ?
>
>
> Stefan
Not quite sure whether that's a serious question or a
troll's bait.
If serious, then (re)read my partof the thread.
If not, it reminds me of a forced-attendance
college-vistor's talk (back in early 60's)
about worldwide fallout from nuclear tests,
and how it was in all the food we ate.
Some student raised his hand and asked, "Why do
you scientists keep adding all this strontium-90
to our milk".
D.
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* Re: emacs 21.3 wants "libXaw3d.so.5"; got Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz; NOW WHAT?
2003-05-19 6:10 emacs 21.3 wants "libXaw3d.so.5"; got Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz; NOW WHAT? David Combs
2003-05-19 8:09 ` Akop Pogosian
@ 2003-05-22 11:02 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-23 5:34 ` David Combs
1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 2003-05-22 11:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) writes:
> [] emacs: 21.3: 21.3 wants "libXaw3d.so.5"; got Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz; NOW WHAT?
>
> (four questions)
I confess that I'm quite confused now, after reading your post. It
seems you were doing many steps, and you're now asking a question
about step 23. But I don't know anything about steps 1 through 22.
What did you want to do?
What did you do to achieve this? (Show all steps, starting from the
beginning, including the successful steps.)
What happened when you did that?
What did you expect to happen?
I hope I'm not alienating you with my stupid questions, but I would
like to help and can't because I'm so confused.
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* Re: emacs 21.3 wants "libXaw3d.so.5"; got Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz; NOW WHAT?
2003-05-22 11:02 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2003-05-23 5:34 ` David Combs
2003-05-23 7:04 ` Kai Großjohann
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: David Combs @ 2003-05-23 5:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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In article <84he7nutvd.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de>,
Kai Großjohann <kai.grossjohann@gmx.net> wrote:
>dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) writes:
>
>> [] emacs: 21.3: 21.3 wants "libXaw3d.so.5"; got Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz; NOW WHAT?
>>
>> (four questions)
>
>I confess that I'm quite confused now, after reading your post. It
>seems you were doing many steps, and you're now asking a question
>about step 23. But I don't know anything about steps 1 through 22.
>
>What did you want to do?
>
>What did you do to achieve this? (Show all steps, starting from the
>beginning, including the successful steps.)
>
>What happened when you did that?
>
>What did you expect to happen?
>
>I hope I'm not alienating you with my stupid questions, but I would
>like to help and can't because I'm so confused.
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Thanks, Kai, for your interest.
I gave up on this thread, and started a new one,
much more successful:
Has anyone actually built emacs 21.3 for SOLARIS (sparc)?
I've gotten lots of help on that one. Please go
have a look; you'll surely have something worthwhile
to add.
My idea (promise) was to try to distill all the different
(and conflicting!) responses, get them verified by the
group, and then see if rms will include them or something
like them in the emacs INSTALL file, or maybe an INSTALL-ADDENDUM.
David
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* Re: emacs 21.3 wants "libXaw3d.so.5"; got Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz; NOW WHAT?
2003-05-23 5:34 ` David Combs
@ 2003-05-23 7:04 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-25 21:37 ` David Combs
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 2003-05-23 7:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) writes:
> Thanks, Kai, for your interest.
>
> I gave up on this thread, and started a new one,
> much more successful:
>
> Has anyone actually built emacs 21.3 for SOLARIS (sparc)?
>
> I've gotten lots of help on that one. Please go
> have a look; you'll surely have something worthwhile
> to add.
I agree with folks there that you need to add the right -L and -R
flags to the linker invocation.
I did this some time ago, on Solaris 2.6, by setting $LDFLAGS prior to
running ./configure.
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* Re: emacs 21.3 wants "libXaw3d.so.5"; got Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz; NOW WHAT?
2003-05-23 7:04 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2003-05-25 21:37 ` David Combs
2003-05-25 22:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-26 6:57 ` Kai Großjohann
0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: David Combs @ 2003-05-25 21:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
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In article <84of1uxhwp.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de>,
Kai Großjohann <kai.grossjohann@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>I agree with folks there that you need to add the right -L and -R
>flags to the linker invocation.
>
>I did this some time ago, on Solaris 2.6, by setting $LDFLAGS prior to
>running ./configure.
Thanks, Kai, for the advice.
Now, on that other thread, there has been SO MUCH back-
and-forth about the args, one saying "add this -R xxx"
and the followup saying eg ~~ "no, no, no -- don't do that!
It won't work!" -- please, for me, and for the eventual
writeup that I promised:
(1) exactly what arg for the -L? (and why)
(2) ditto for the -R.
(3) Something to pre-answer a "no no no!" kind of followup.
(4) (I assume there's more than one way to successfully
build this new Emacs -- or is there essentially only
ONE way?)
(5) What is it that makes this 21.3 (or just 21.x?)
more difficult, more understanding needed, than
20.x, 19.x?
THANKS!
David
PS: From the SOLARIS ld-manpage, will having these
pieces right here make it any easier to answer
anything? (Instead of having to go out and grab
your own man-page and lift out pieces).
i
-L path
Adds path to the library search directories. ld
searches for libraries first in any directories speci-
fied by the -L options and then in the standard direc-
tories. This option is useful only if it precedes the
-l options to which it applies on the command line.
The environment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH may be used
to supplement the library search path. See
LD_LIBRARY_PATH below.
-R path
A colon-separated list of directories used to specify
library search directories to the runtime linker. If
present and not NULL, it is recorded in the output
object file and passed to the runtime linker. Multiple
instances of this option are concatenated together
with each path separated by a colon.
-l x Searches a library libx.so or libx.a, the conventional
names for shared object and archive libraries, respec-
tively. In dynamic mode, unless the -B static option
is in effect, ld searches each directory specified in
the library search path for a libx.so or libx.a file.
The directory search stops at the first directory con-
taining either. ld chooses the file ending in .so if
-lx expands to two files with names of the form
libx.so and libx.a. If no libx.so is found, then ld
accepts libx.a. In static mode, or when the -B static
option is in effect, ld selects only the file ending
in .a. ld searches a library when it encounters its
name, so the placement of -l is significant.
ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES
LD_LIBRARY_PATH
A list of directories in which to search for libraries
specified with the -l option. Multiple directories are
separated by a colon. In the most general case, it
will contain two directory lists separated by a semi-
colon:
dirlist1;dirlist2
If ld is called with any number of occurrences of -L,
as in:
ld ... -Lpath1 ... -Lpathn ...
then the search path ordering is:
dirlist1 path1 ... pathn dirlist2 LIBPATH
When the list of directories does not contain a semi-
colon, it is interpreted as dirlist2.
The LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable also affects
the runtime linkers searching for dynamic dependen-
cies.
This environment variable can be specified with a _32
or _64 suffix. This makes the environment variable
specific, respectively, to 32-bit or 64-bit processes
and overrides any non-suffixed version of the environ-
ment variable that may be in effect.
LD_RUN_PATH
An alternative mechanism for specifying a runpath to
the link-editor. See the -R option. If both
LD_RUN_PATH and the -R option are specified, -R super-
sedes.
FILES
LIBPATH
/usr/lib for 32-bit libraries, or /usr/lib/64 for 64-
bit libraries.
(Of course there's other stuff that I ommitted,
amongst that stuff.)
D.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread* Re: emacs 21.3 wants "libXaw3d.so.5"; got Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz; NOW WHAT?
2003-05-25 21:37 ` David Combs
@ 2003-05-25 22:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-26 6:57 ` Kai Großjohann
1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2003-05-25 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
> Now, on that other thread, there has been SO MUCH back-
> and-forth about the args, one saying "add this -R xxx"
> and the followup saying eg ~~ "no, no, no -- don't do that!
I don't know where you've seen such things. I haven't seen a single post
say no to the use of -R.
> (1) exactly what arg for the -L? (and why)
The fact that you got a binary shows that the compiler found all the
libraries it needed at compile-time, which is all what -L is for, so
clearly all the necessary -L are already correctly set by `configure'.
> (5) What is it that makes this 21.3 (or just 21.x?)
> more difficult, more understanding needed, than
> 20.x, 19.x?
It might compile by default with libraries that are not in the standard
dynamic loader load path.
Stefan
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread* Re: emacs 21.3 wants "libXaw3d.so.5"; got Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz; NOW WHAT?
2003-05-25 21:37 ` David Combs
2003-05-25 22:22 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2003-05-26 6:57 ` Kai Großjohann
1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 2003-05-26 6:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) writes:
> Now, on that other thread, there has been SO MUCH back- and-forth
> about the args, one saying "add this -R xxx" and the followup saying
> eg ~~ "no, no, no -- don't do that! It won't work!" -- please, for
> me, and for the eventual writeup that I promised:
>
> (1) exactly what arg for the -L? (and why)
The argument for -L should be where the library lives. So if you
want to include the library /opt/some_package/lib/libfoo.so, then you
should add -L/opt/some_package/lib.
-L tells the linker to look in that directory when constructing the
executable.
> (2) ditto for the -R.
The argument for -R should be the same as for -L. -R tells the
executable where to find its libraries when running.
When -R is not specfied, the executable (the loader, actually) will
look in the directories listed in $LD_LIBRARY_PATH. I'm not sure
whether the linker will also look there or only in -L.
> (3) Something to pre-answer a "no no no!" kind of followup.
The obvious alternative, to me, would be to specify the directory via
$LD_LIBRARY_PATH when the executable is run. So what you could do is
to use -L to specify a directory for the linker, and then each user
can use $LD_LIBRARY_PATH to choose the directory when running.
This way, you could specify -L/foo/1.4/lib but later on, when a new
version of foo is released, you could change $LD_LIBRARY_PATH from
/foo/1.4/lib to /foo/1.5/lib and then the executable would use the
new library.
> (4) (I assume there's more than one way to successfully
> build this new Emacs -- or is there essentially only
> ONE way?)
There are advantages for the -R solution (always finds the library
that Emacs was built with) and also for the $LD_LIBRARY_PATH solution
(can use bugfixed library without recompiling Emacs).
My personal opinion is that it is safer to use -R because strange
problems may arise when run Emacs with a different library (version)
than it was built with. If the bugfix from the new library version
is really needed, it is easy enough to build Emacs again.
> (5) What is it that makes this 21.3 (or just 21.x?)
> more difficult, more understanding needed, than
> 20.x, 19.x?
Emacs 21 uses more external libraries, for displaying images for
instance.
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