From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 26b56dc: Fix some single quotes in documentation Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 21:11:33 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20160314154123.2684.74715@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <56E6E764.9090500@cs.ucla.edu> <89ba6063-e962-7590-39be-c4fb28f394ea@yandex.ru> <56E703D9.8000607@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457982714 3427 80.91.229.3 (14 Mar 2016 19:11:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 19:11:54 +0000 (UTC) To: Paul Eggert , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 14 20:11:49 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1afXu7-0006e1-BP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 20:11:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43528 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1afXu6-0005rr-3x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 15:11:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56850) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1afXu1-0005rk-RD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 15:11:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1afXtx-0002J2-Mk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 15:11:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]:36413) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1afXtx-0002Iw-FK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 15:11:37 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id n186so122389431wmn.1 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 12:11:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yIpxIJN/o5oqqflEyE199mrvJcHnFn1XHag8gQ9Oo4Y=; b=OSxwlz/LMlN4r2X3tGCnXdW7UWerMqg4E6cwQnx6NmyYMH5aFt9SbYeraXUdJrmwtr zpdzfkQ7K3gdBrMLQ3fIZ2u7VwUZe25M2gKX/7WIqcCuYuM1uPJALZ9Te4rDF0IfrBRZ GA+h7I04m38pO8V3s7keQ5mXjaghE2n1USSt+7zL4DnFzKl6I9wg/f+5iTfE2jM9Q44G GVEyERP8JjB3BgROws+McfL6uKnVW6LQ3MX1OYp1O7waGcWq4LExowCCRB4d1R8zcfPG pEHbFSljyBbbmq59/es7hAsByjLXE9wHAVkKu7q++dFsuVjrxZS+oNkm0nhMdarV63Pf x18A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yIpxIJN/o5oqqflEyE199mrvJcHnFn1XHag8gQ9Oo4Y=; b=Q+CSNrqjb/zdxVTvKDoRot9joqSwL/v8OnT6i9BkwwDBQ5Pv1NOXAyWWC3b0ghb7vD iZN5A3uBxeKMwAVCv4DDGovbKy0UZeCoWOT39BcZJplPlqXGEa6GJunOJ9U0/3Q7qj6i 2lXcKO7oGAH7OE6IUR9xc00ATvBr+nqwaaQFEI6R6JMnera+njFX+kKm+UUrN/M9s92c 6qVAxQD07vmiaG5CCbYBEnhXJpZX2qmi5QIaK3UNCza/YwwKZ63xemXeopVPcMo5zzDd DtqP59yr/E/ZM2Z9y6o1OFP63PWYW/NMQf4gw1hWfwO0h27PBJ357DGSUVUKKdwt5kSf 2HSQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIRZSiROVFJ6CGrwPy3x0bXFmv9Yl0SmmKl/1dW8eLcgTpzvfBnWAKVO2yL8jav3A== X-Received: by 10.28.143.9 with SMTP id r9mr18911094wmd.37.1457982696885; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 12:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([185.105.175.24]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id hh8sm23469642wjc.42.2016.03.14.12.11.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 14 Mar 2016 12:11:35 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 In-Reply-To: <56E703D9.8000607@cs.ucla.edu> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201749 Archived-At: On 03/14/2016 08:32 PM, Paul Eggert wrote: > I can follow up and nag people for a while, sure. It's not a big deal. Nagging people is not what I had in mind. > To make things easier we could install the attached patch, so that > people can continue to type ` and ' like they're used to, when editing > etc/NEWS. The basic idea seems fine. If we agree to go back to using `', we can use an `eval' block to add two font-lock rules, to render the quotes in a curly fashion when viewer in Emacs. > Alternatively we could revert commit > 4235d2d9eaa3b64d3172f6c60f1e71704795af89 and go back to straight quoting > 'like this' in etc/NEWS, as was done after my first patch today. That > would be adequate too, even though (as John said) it is less consistent > with the rest of the documentation. Consistent with what? Post-rendered .info files? > The main point is that grave quoting > `like this' is not right in user-facing documentation. Where do we show it to the users, aside from inside Emacs?