From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_R=c3=b6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Issues with Emacs master? Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 22:26:43 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1396273405.478662.1564757601342@mail1.libero.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="227523"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 Cc: Stefan Monnier To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 05 22:24:45 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hujXA-000wzU-7l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2019 22:24:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56842 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hujX8-0003hT-Ku for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2019 16:24:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57722) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hujWz-0003hK-MF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2019 16:24:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hujWx-0001Ea-Mx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2019 16:24:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([217.72.192.75]:49893) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hujWw-00019M-2u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2019 16:24:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.39] ([88.130.49.9]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N8GIg-1iPToR1PEm-0148Mb; Mon, 05 Aug 2019 22:24:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:1kws3/02q/gVr/yDvb03d0KqGSdg/3FbgP2U7G18bBQV4t7es5a hD8+JEcV1+BUhUOdAt4PNB2s87BbI9xQv7XDCJWcBnv16BVttx/SS+RrXTbDPQDqnr4kG5v mP+y3YJ4/G5kJhsjB1uJPk1/o9EOulfzBlLNUIGmzvnJxYXEMO49FWCRaJ06T7cuWcd4BOR I1v7OMK2EkRYNDa8MsgTw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:riZdKdR5DPk=:IKmQXSTD3/QqKy3pR6mhXF XPGviaJTl/6ACeNkV1z5gPg3ghFx0nr2Y8mmB2Dx5sGd1JdnrLbfYXyrv45pFA7T0NhRTrq2e QWI3RVaPGA912nuwMzYPd+Uxivhch1ChWl20M9VfmYyiFmV9SMD5s25qQR02MyFMsm75L3v6k 2GE4FGJ50f1VFCTAk6tXUWU5uuU2j3xSPWm0aQKZhXsKC70MhSl2JLFBRpflfpjBUiW/FokZE jq2iqmmTfWlup8u5QILWacaLliKj1/Jc9F2wAEBnPRomU6uIb2dA2fGRG+084tyJKGsyyny/Q qwpSWuXYRffBioLO1r3EuZNXYYCZ4dGnX7J9/+QTQi9kUtgNJMRHl3/fwpvq3GMuV0ERqKkJn C3sTuRPDPkAi3+Nb3p1d5YC6W4QhFVg+BKgJzeBIQGUgA9sHVuCK77u0JDuQ6FsgsihHmRKQ/ x/UPmvHyVbJbRqiMR5EVwinM3VmmvK/h6fXn0p/IWXYejQJtsDdWGMk7IfuZ8/h3liqH+oQUn rVLz9zwHjpc5SdstvFkoKiJIHfllpAR6JLELeROLWsFx23lSjEaNVnYkqkFw+Np7KWTvuIKLF rgxLO9ZXEkpHNPI8eoyV8PdhfOAZF4papYWdu2npd2cAJsZ0YCnLFNe2vj8Y0aas3O20DcwMZ 6ARcxbHk0xkLl+utDocbOnuJj43LKjfEZWTjrCMO4aj/1ORm110RCHP7pDkgjCYU0rTijNuWJ gTUW/wALCpQvia/wct/ySNtbZsxubnPIBwCBtpF/TA6C6p072vnaHHB5U2+lrJtRS2OCzdxn X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 217.72.192.75 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:239197 Archived-At: On 05.08.19 21:44, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>>> (to know about python-indent-offset) I get in the minibuffer, >>>>> - on Windows (MSYS2/MINGW64 build): >>>>> "Shell native completion is disabled, using fallback" >>>>> - on GNU/Linux Mint 19.1 (Cairo build): >>>>> "Shell native completion is enabled." > [...] >> Customizing `python-indent-guess-indent-offset-verbose` to nil should avoid >> this message. IMO nil by default seems reasonable. > Hmm, the code I see for it is: > > python.el- (if (and indentation (not (zerop indentation))) > python.el- (set (make-local-variable 'python-indent-offset) indentation) > python.el: (when python-indent-guess-indent-offset-verbose > python.el- (message "Can't guess python-indent-offset, using defaults: %s" > python.el- python-indent-offset)))))))) > > so the message it controls seems to be quite different from the message > that the OP sees. > > > Stefan > Referred to mentioned "Can’t guess python-indent-offset, using defaults: 4" BTW that's a thing noticed here too for a certain time. Not a serious bug, but not helpful, worth fixing. Guessing indent OTOH is costly and reasonably off by default.