From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to get rid of *GNU Emacs* buffer on start-up? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <873ajzwoqu.fsf@kobe.laptop> <823901dd-c54c-4e3b-b6ad-512d52724a46@z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <87ljxoffs6.fsf@atthis.clsnet.nl> <2868c8db-ff02-4d67-9e80-4cf323086ca3@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <551c1987-57cc-410e-a81a-51ee96f3387d@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222184512 22197 80.91.229.12 (23 Sep 2008 15:41:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:41:52 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 23 17:42:46 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KiA1z-00028A-AJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:42:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45208 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KiA0x-0000xC-J4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:41:23 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!postnews.google.com!v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 154 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.185.159 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1222183227 4421 127.0.0.1 (23 Sep 2008 15:20:27 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.6.185.159; posting-account=qPxGtQkAAADb6PWdLGiWVucht1ZDR6fn User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/525.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Safari/525.22, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:162619 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:57961 Archived-At: On Sep 23, 6:02 am, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On 2008-09-23, Xah Lee wrote: > > > On Sep 22, 11:25 am, Eric S Fraga > > wrote: > >> On 2008-09-22,XahLee wrote: > > >> > Hi Erik Fragga, > > >> > On the subject of RSI, perhaps you should use Dvorak, and you'd be > >> > interested in my article here: > > >> I don't have any RSI problems due to my use of a keyboard. If you > >> read my post, I said clearly that mouse usage is what causes me pain. > >> We are talking (I thought) about text interfaces versus GUIs. > > > if you don't know much about keyboard and ergonomics, i recommend > > reading the few articles i've written on the issue. A partial list > > Your arrogance (exacerbated and accentuated by your apparent inability > to read what others write) is quite amazing. Depressing, actually. I > know a great deal about both ergonomics and keyboards. I really don't > need you to point me to what you've written given your rather narrow > view on most of these issues. The question is, what is the percentage of your knowledge of keyboards and ergonomics with respect to mine. > I can't resist (although I probably should :-/ ) adding that I've only > ever encountered C-n, as anything other than next-line, when using a > graphical web browser and, in those cases, it doesn't bring up a "new > document". Hum? I no unstand. Do u mean to say, that as far as you know, pressing Ctrl+n invoke a next-line command in web browsers? > I'm bored with this now. Time to get back to constructive writing > (and I do a *lot* of that with no problems at all with Emacs). In my effort to educate the tech geekers, i try to be entertaining as well, so as to elevate you from boredom as well as mine. I hope it is not a epic fail. The entertainment bits are inversely proportional to the tech geeker's level of knowledge and love. Please see: =E2=80=A2 (Knowledge + Love) / Disrespectfulness http://xahlee.org/Netiquette_dir/disrespectfulness.html For your convenience, the text version is pasted below. ---------------------------------- (Knowledge + Love) / Disrespectfulness Xah Lee, 2008-07 John wrote: Besides your bad english and lack of respect, etiquette and manners makes it less than rewarding to discuss with you. The respect in my response to people's writings is based on this ratio: (knowledge+love)/disrespectfulness exhibited in their posts. For example, if disrespectfulness is constant, then the greater their knowledge and love, the greater will be my respect for them. Suppose the knowledge+love is constant, then the greater their outward disrespect, will gain greater of my disrepsect. If their knowledge +love is greater than their outward disrespect, then overall they still gain my respect. However, if their knowledge+love is less than their show of disrespectfulness, then i dispise them. We all have different levels of IQs, environment we grew up, areas of expertise, weaknesses. No human animal, knows all (in fact in modern word hardly any human animal knew 1/10^googolplex percent of knowledge). This is when discussion, comes in. When you know something, and you sincerely believe you know it, don't be shy. When you don't know something, don't be a ass. The problem with most sophomorons, is not knowing the extent of their ignorance. Coupled with the male nature, they become aggressive in pissing fights. When i encounter tech geekers, usually they don't know shit of the subject relative to me, yet they are outright insulting to point of views outside their community (may it be unix ways; perl, lisp...). If you don't take the extra mile to kiss their ass when presenting unorthodox views, they either call you stupid outright, or become aggressive and hateful, to the point to kick/ban you or whatnot (e.g. eliminating any possible discussion or explanation i could contribute or defend of their accusations). That is when, you begin to see fuckheads and motherfucks sprinkled in my writings. O, i almost forgot, you wrote: =C2=ABBesides your bad english....=C2=BB. The vexing level of my english, is proportional to the number of grammar pundits in the world (you can see them slaving in alt.usage.english, for example). When society ceases to be influenced by these morons, my english might become something you would characterize as orthodox. (See: Language and English.) The above is originally posted to newsgroup =E2=80=9Ccomp.lang.lisp=E2=80= =9D. 2008-08-24 Addendum Q: After having worked through most of your web site, and hence I came across the =E2=80=9CDisrespectfulness=E2=80=9D essay. I do have a question:= How would you see valid value ranges for the Knowledge, Love, and Disrespectfulness parameters? Thanks for sharing. A: It's just a general sense... that essay roughly describes my reactions in newsgroups. As such, probably not worth digging into. Knowledge means computer lang knowledge, protocols, OS, systems... or it could be in any academic area like economics, sociology, history... or even non-academic ones like business experiences, running a company, managing a shop, knowing about gardening, fishing, sports, good restaurants of a city ... all sorts. Love is the love of other people in the most basic sense.... captured in this quote: =C2=ABThe best index to a person's character is (a) how he treats people who can't do him any good, and (b) how he treats people who can't fight back. =E2=80=94Abigail Van Buren=E2=86=97=C2=BB Disrespectfulness is any of rudeness, male aggression, etc. My =E2=80=9Cknowledge & love=E2=80=9D is inspired by my favorite author Ber= trand Russell's essay titled =E2=80=9CWhat I Believe=E2=80=9D. Excerpt: =C2=ABThe good life is one inspired by love and guided by knowledge.=C2= =BB =C2=ABKnowledge and love are both indefinitely extensible; therefore, however good a life may be, a better life can be imagined. Neither love without knowledge, nor knowledge without love can produce a good life. In the Middle Ages, when pestilence appeared in a country, holy men advised the population to assemble in churches and pray for deliverance; the result was that the infection spread with extraordinary rapidity among the crowded masses of supplicants. This was an example of love without knowledge. The late War afforded an example of knowledge without love. In each case, the result was death on a large scale.=C2=BB Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84