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From: "Dmitri Minaev" <minaev@gmail.com>
To: "Reiner Steib" <Reiner.Steib@gmx.de>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Soliciting Recommendations for a Mail Client
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 14:43:46 +0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b6c377310804080243u79cec63eq6082111311bdce63@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <v9ej9h2vzx.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de>

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 07 2008, Dmitri Minaev wrote:
>
>  > I found the approach used by Gnus too original and chose Wanderlust.
>
>  What does "too original" mean?

"If you are used to traditional mail readers, but have decided to
switch to reading mail with Gnus, you may find yourself experiencing
something of a culture shock," says the manual, and a shock it was.
"Gnus, by default, handles all its groups using the same approach.
This approach is very newsreaderly--you enter a group, see the
new/unread messages, and when you read the messages, they get marked
as read, and you don't see them any more."  I know that if I forced
myself into using Gnus for a month or two, I would've got used to this
approach, but I found no real reasons to do so. I couldn't find the
mail I needed, then they suddenly sprang up, then my mailbox was full,
then I gave up. I use Gnus as a very good newsreader, the best I know,
but for mail I have tools that suit me better :)

>  Huh?  You don't need any setup with regards to charsets in Gnus at all
>  (at least if you use a current version of Emacs, i.e. Emacs 22).  If
>  some special complicated settings are necessary, please report it as a
>  bug.

It's not a bug. Or, even if it is, it's a conceptual bug of the
Russophone internet. There are three encodings used for Cyrillic
alphabet, besides UTF-8. Some newsgroups require me to use one of them
and some mail recipients want me to send mail in other encodings. My
.gnus file sets 9 variables and calls 1 function to make Gnus work as
I want it to. I confess that this setup was inherited from Emacs 19 or
20, if my memory serves well, but I'm afraid of changing anything :).
In .wl file, the equivalent setup required 4 variables and 1 function
call.

-- 
With best regards,
Dmitri Minaev

Russian history blog: http://minaev.blogspot.com




  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-08  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-04  2:12 Soliciting Recommendations for a Mail Client Peter Jones
2008-04-05  6:10 ` Bill O'Connor
2008-04-05  6:37   ` Timothy Hobbs
2008-04-05 10:12     ` Reiner Steib
2008-04-05 19:25       ` Timothy Hobbs
2008-04-05 20:18         ` Re-loading ~/.gnus.el (was: Soliciting Recommendations for a Mail Client) Reiner Steib
2008-04-06  0:00     ` Soliciting Recommendations for a Mail Client Xavier Maillard
     [not found]     ` <mailman.10056.1207442386.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-04-07 10:02       ` Sébastien Vauban
2008-04-06  0:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-04-07  6:13 ` Dmitri Minaev
2008-04-07 21:30   ` Reiner Steib
2008-04-08  9:43     ` Dmitri Minaev [this message]
2008-04-08 16:15       ` Peter Jones
2008-04-08 22:33         ` Reiner Steib
2008-04-08 21:43       ` cyrillic newsgroups in Gnus (was: Soliciting Recommendations for a Mail Client) Reiner Steib
2008-06-29 18:28 ` Soliciting Recommendations for a Mail Client Bill Wohler
     [not found] <mailman.10022.1207371697.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-04-06  3:11 ` Tim X
2008-04-07  0:00   ` Xavier Maillard

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