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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Change in files.el
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 18:31:29 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b60dc274-c5f2-89a3-a2c2-202da156cae7@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bmurz0y9.fsf@gnu.org>

On 28.01.2017 17:57, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> These sound minor to me (and the last two are also possible without
> the requirement, AFAIU).  By contrast, insisting on a function value
> instead of the default nil forces me to go through at least one more
> level of indirection when I need to understand what happens in a
> function that references such variables, which sounds like a more
> serious trouble from my POV.

It's just one more level of indirection. We routinely deal with dozens 
of them. This above rule should just be adhered consistently, and the 
indirection won't be a surprise every time.

On the plus side, you might get a smaller function that calls the 
-default one, because some code will be extracted.

Finally, the default value of save-some-buffers-default-predicate can be 
#'ignore or #'identity (it's either this, or the previous paragraph, I'm 
not familiar with the code enough to be sure).

> I was up to my neck in this when I
> needed to document all the various optional behaviors implemented in
> isearch.el, and bumped into similar issues several times elsewhere.

isearch.el and etags.el have more egregious problems, such as extensive 
use of dynamic bindings.




  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-28 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-28  2:16 Change in files.el Richard Stallman
2017-01-28  2:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-28  9:10   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-28 14:40     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-28 14:57       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-28 15:31         ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2017-01-28 16:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-28 15:40         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-28 16:08           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-28 16:51             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-28 17:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-28 17:22                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-28 17:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-28 17:42                     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-28 17:53                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-29 18:59                         ` John Wiegley
2017-01-30  3:57                           ` Leo Liu
2017-01-30 15:58                             ` John Wiegley
2017-01-31  4:19                               ` Leo Liu
2017-01-31 14:01                                 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-31 14:46                               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-31 16:21                                 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-31 18:40                                   ` Default value of variables named `*-function' [was: Change in files.el] Drew Adams
2017-02-01  8:35                                     ` Andreas Röhler
2017-01-28 18:41                       ` Change in files.el Mark Oteiza
2017-01-28 19:37                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-01  3:49                           ` Mark Oteiza
2017-02-01  7:33                             ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-02-01 12:56                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-01 14:12                                 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-29  0:21       ` Richard Stallman
2017-02-04  9:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-04 23:52   ` Richard Stallman

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