From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: For insertion in trunk Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:49:42 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Message-ID: References: <87sjfyqzhc.fsf@gmx.de> <87ty0dzdy0.fsf@gmx.de> <87fw9l5b2j.fsf@gnu.org> <148vf9pmxa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1340769007 1880 80.91.229.3 (27 Jun 2012 03:50:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 03:50:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 27 05:50:06 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SjjGV-0005gW-MG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 05:50:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59154 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SjjGV-0004mN-OR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 23:50:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33356) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SjjGR-0004m4-Vq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 23:50:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SjjGQ-0003RM-0s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 23:49:59 -0400 Original-Received: from orlando.hostforweb.net ([216.246.45.90]:49753) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SjjGP-0003QZ-SN; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 23:49:57 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43551) by orlando.hostforweb.net with smtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SjjGJ-0004qD-8H; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 22:49:51 -0500 X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`; Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu; B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPz8bKEI=?= Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1.50 (i686-pc-cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/1N3Tubbh0mfKtCnbsZwm7SJYS4= X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - orlando.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-Received-From: 216.246.45.90 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151207 Archived-At: Glenn Morris wrote: > Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: >> I've set no-byte-compile and no-update-autoloads in those files. > OK, that works as a stopgap. >> (I'm going to try rebuilding now, though it takes time on Cygwin.) > Hydra will do it for you: > http://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/gnu/emacs-trunk > It's a nice service, although it has a few too many false build failures > (full disk, missing dependency, some other glitch, etc). >>> In any case surely these test files should be under test/, not lisp/? >> >> Currently those modules are of no use for the run time I believe. >> I only did sync of Ma Gnus and Emacs. > I don't understand. Not being used at runtime means they should go in > test/, like every other test file (including gnus-test.el). > They are no use at all in Emacs if they rely on parts of Gnus that are > not present though (whatever gnus-load is). > Also (my pet peeve) the license headers are obviously wrong in two of > them: > ;; This file is not part of GNU Emacs. > [...] > ;; If not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin > ;; Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301, USA. > The modern version uses a URL instead of a street address. I'd like to simply remove those files and directory in Emacs since I think they are worthless if the launchers (in Gnus lisp/Makefile provides) lack, and also got to think adding the launchers to Emacs is not very helpful to Emacs developers either. So, I'd wait for other responses for a while.